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Political Roundup for October 25th, 2016…The Trump loss blame Game…RRH Elections


Clinton: She’s already essentially measuring the drapes, and showing plenty of signs that she has no intention of keeping her promises to the Sanderistas about corporate and trade policy.

Da Governator: Ahnuld has said that if he could, he would have run for President this year. I can’t say I’d have been unhappy if he did/could, because a man most famous for collapsing the shell of the CAGOP in on itself while sporting an atrocious favorability rating and a baby momma scandal would still probably be an above average candidate in our 2016 field. He’d at least have been funny to watch flame out.

Talk-Media: In one of the more amusing political articles I’ve read in a while, a bunch of GOP insiders are gearing up to pin the blame for Trump and the 2016 loss on the “Conservative Media Groups” like Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, etc. The reasoning is that these mean people have become so influential with America’s right-wing population that they have displaced the normal media party organs and have caused them to lose control of the party’s messaging, therefore leading to Trump beating all the GOP’s “reasonable” candidates. The funniest part is that they are (in classic “Summer of Trump” fashion) either expecting Trump’s likely November loss to somehow get all these voters back to listening to them so they don’t have to change a thing, or taking a more active approach and . . . criticizing them. Because the Jeb Bush strategy of calmly explaining to Trump voters how his candidacy is harming his chance at the family office the Conservative movement worked so well. Its also quite hilarious to see a bunch of GOP media men try to bust out a “the marketplace should punish failure” analogy without a hint of irony after losing the argument over the party’s future to Donald freaking Trump. Lee Atwater is probably rolling in his grave knowing that these chumps are his successors.

Trump: In a revelation that will come as a shock to people numbering in the high single-digits, the celebrity real estate mogul used to have coke-fueled risqué parties back when that was what every rich New Yorker did with all their 80’s money….


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Political Roundup For Monday, October 24, 2016…Trump nice to Down-Ballot Republicans?…RRH Elections…

Good morning folks. Welcome to the week. Fifteen days until this is all over. Please check back at noon today for our next legislative preview installment, covering legislatures in the Midwest.

Also, we are beginning our Vermont Poll. It will be out this Friday!

Presidential News:

Trump: Trump actually said some positive things about down-ballot Republicans, urging his supporters to vote for Republicans in House and Senate races. He couldn’t help add: “I hope they help me too! It’d be nice if they help us too, right?”

Clinton/Wikileaks: Bill Scher says that the Wikileaks emails haven’t taken a toll on Hillary because voters know not to give Russia the boost it wanted from the process, and because they know that other candidates probably have similar emails with their staff. That is … exactly wrong. The Wikileaks emails haven’t flipped the race–though we don’t know that they haven’t affected the polls by stopping some of Trump’s bleeding–because the news media has been far more focused on p**sygate and Trump’s other comments.

Fourth Debate: Ignoring the will of the voters, Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway is floating the idea of a fourth presidential debate between Trump and Hillary. Have we not suffered enough?

Pence: Mike Pence continues to try to direct his running mate into safer ground, but of course it doesn’t work. Still, my level of respect for Pence has gone way up since his VP campaign began….


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Trump receives boo’s for comments directed at Clinton at NYC Al Smith Dinner ….

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton traded digs at the dinner, which is hosted by and supports Catholic Charities….

Trump’s digs got boo’s because the audience though he went too far…

They sat next to each othere with NY Cardinal Dolan sitting in the middle….

In the end?

Clinton left the event upbeat and smiling and working the line…..

Trump ducked out the door without shaking one hand…..

NY Times….

Donald J. Trump began this quadrennial exercise in campaign humility and self-deprecation on Thursday by comparing himself to the son of God — just another “carpenter working for his father” in his youth.

By the end, facing cascading and uncomfortable jeers from a crowd full of white ties and gowns, he had called Hillary Clinton Catholic-hating, “so corrupt” and potentially jail-bound in a prospective Trump administration.

“I don’t know who they’re angry at, Hillary, you or I,” Mr. Trump said sheepishly from the dais, turning to his opponent amid the heckling.

It seemed clear to everyone else. Mr. Trump was being booed at a charity dinner.

So it went at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner in Manhattan, a presidential campaign ritual of levity and feigned warmth — upended, like so much else in this election season, by the gale-force bid of Mr. Trump.

Breaking with decades of tradition at the gathering once he took the microphone, Mr. Trump set off on a blistering, grievance-filled performance that translated poorly to the staid setting, stunning many of the well-heeled guests who had filed into the Waldorf Astoria hotel for an uncommon spectacle: an attempted détente in a campaign so caustic that the candidates, less than 24 hours earlier, declined to shake hands on a debate stage….


Washington Post…

Clinton said: “Maybe you saw Donald dismantle his prompter the other day, and I get that. They’re hard to keep up with, and I’m sure it’s even harder when you’re translating from the original Russian.”

Trump smiled and rocked in his seat, his face looking just slightly redder than usual.

Clinton recognized former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg, saying it was a shame he didn’t speak because “I’m curious to hear what a billionaire has to say,” taking a swipe at Trump’s likely exaggerated net worth.

And she gave a shout-out to Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, saying: “She’s working day and night for Donald and because she’s a contractor, he’s probably not even going to pay her.” Conway, who has become subtly critical of her boss, quoted Clinton in a tweet and wrote: “A shout out from @HillaryClinton at #AlSmithDinner.”

As Clinton finished speaking, she received a standing ovation from many in the crowd. Trump clapped, then briefly stood, then sat down again, as if unsure what to do. Lip-readers caught him telling her that she did a good job. As the dinner ended, Trump shook hands with some of the others on the stage, while a line of people wanting to talk with Clinton grew. After a few minutes, Trump and his wife made their way toward the exit.

Before ducking out, Trump flashed the crowd a thumbs up….


image…Wash Post

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Political Roundup for October 20, 2016…Trump shaming the GOP?…RRH Elections


Trump: At the third presidential debate the Republican candidate for President of the United States refused to state if he would accept the results of the American presidential election if he lost to Hillary Clinton. This was an extraordinary departure from the basic principles that have underpinned American democracy for more than two centuries. The GOP should be ashamed of itself for nominating this man.

Hillary: As part of their efforts to help Donald Trump win the Republican presidential nomination the Hillary Clinton campaign paid agitators to incite violence at Trump rallies during the Republican primaries. The ensuing backlash against the violence the Clinton campaign instigated helped generate attention for Donald Trump and propelled him to victory in the GOP primaries.

McMullin: The latest Emerson College poll of Utah has Evan McMullin winning the state! They have Evan McMullin leading Donald Trump by 4 points, 31% to 27%, with Clinton taking 24%. If McMullin wins Utah it will be the first time in 48 years that a third party candidate has won a state in a presidential election….


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Marco Rubio cautions against Wikileaks…

The Florida Republican Senator  warns that ven though the Wikileaks  Clinton campaign dumps are AGAINST Clinton….

The Republicans COULD have the same happen to them….

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio broke from many in his party when he said Wednesday that Republicans shouldn’t discuss the Hillary Clinton campaign emails published by WikiLeaks, a number of which have created bad optics and real headaches for the Democratic ticket.

Rubio told CNN that “as our intelligence agencies have said, these leaks are an effort by a foreign government to interfere with our electoral process, and I will not indulge it.”
His remarks were first reported by ABC News.

“Further, I want to warn my fellow Republicans who may want to capitalize politically on these leaks: Today it is the Democrats. Tomorrow it could be us,” he told ABC….


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Political Roundup for October 13, 2016…Clinton to go for Red States?…RRH Elections…


Clinton and red states: The Clinton campaign is considering making a serious play for 3 traditionally red states: Arizona, Georgia and Utah. They are deciding whether it is worth buying TV ads in the states and other efforts. The talk comes after favorable poll results and major newspapers in the states endorsing Clinton.

Trump’s “authoritarian power”: Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) is walking back comments he made that Trump needed “to show some authoritarian power” if he is elected. He now says he intended to use the word “authoritative” suggesting that he is a powerful personality. LePage also says he will not interact with the press anymore-a vow he has made before.

Trump/Ryan: Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway downplayed Trump’s attacks on Paul Ryan in an interview with CNN. She accused them of not covering the “real issues” that people care about and “cherrypicking” comments that he makes and then making issues out of them. As far as Trump’s comments about Ryan go, she says “he said a couple of things and it’s over”.

Trump tweeting: Newt Gingrich says Trump needs to stop tweeting things out himself, especially in the middle of the night. He says “I don’t think you want a President of the United States who randomly tweets” and calls the middle of the night tweets “this 3 AM baloney”….


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Those Wikileaks Clinton Emails ain’t bad at all….

The more of the email leaks dumped out?

They more that show a campaign in the traditional sense moving thru issue and problems and solving them….

There has been NOTHING damaging to the Clinton campaign…

Indeed the leaks do Hillary Clinton a favor by showing her to NOT be devious ..But instead a cautious politican , who has a sense of what the reality of public and private politics is…It also has show a daughter keeping tabs on her father and Hillary Clinton warning bankers, the one who have given her campaign money, to get their act together….

These are NOT bad things ….

Jullian Assunge  (And his Russian connection it seems) have played themselves from relevance in this….

Here’s how Clinton put it in that 2013 speech, and be prepared, I’m going to quote her at length: “Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching … all of the backroom discussions and the deals … then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position. And finally, I think–I believe in evidence-based decisionmaking. I want to know what the facts are.” Clinton is speaking an essential, uncontroversial truth about how things work in a democracy. And yet, for much of the public–and too much of our media–her sentiments are perceived as shifty, further evidence that she can’t be trusted, as if a willingness to compromise were a sign of weakness, not a necessary strength.

As for the rest of the emails, there are the occasional screw-ups and embarrassing moments of candor, but–as with the WikiLeaks dump of the State Department’s diplomatic cables–the most striking thing about them is the careful, intelligent way in which the Clinton staff goes about the business of politics. There is substantive consternation about how to deal with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren on Wall Street, a careful massaging of where to come down on Warren’s proposal for a new Glass-Steagall law to regulate banking. Clinton and her advisers believe that Sanders is being too simplistic…

Watching the deliberations unfold, I found myself thinking, Boy, Assange has done a public service. It’s good to know how policy develops in a political campaign.

Some on the left will find Clinton’s attempts to flatter and find common ground with her Wall Street audiences offensive–her willingness to take money for these speeches was a big mistake–but if you look at the content of the talks, Clinton is essentially warning the bankers about the public’s belief that they have behaved badly, while calling for more “transparency” and reform, a message her audiences may not have wanted to hear…..


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Political Roundup for October 11, 2016…GOP Anarchy…RRH Elections

As America wishes it could recover from the events of last weekend starting with the release of Trump’s “lockerroom talk” to the debate which left substantial portions of Missouri uninhabitable for years to come, the nightmare known as this election cycle continues:


RNC: After a weekend of silence and rumors, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus confirmed once again he is a coward and the rumors of the RNC abandoning Trump are not true.  Priebus says the RNC went silent for the nominee to explain himself.  Obviously Priebus was ordered back into line by his “dear leader” Trump.  We cannot depose Trump right now, but could we depose Priebus?

Ryan:  Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R) is not being a coward like his fellow Wisconsin Priebus and is abandoning Trump.

Anarchy: Here is more on the anarchy that is breaking out as Republican turns on Republican over Trump.

More Ryan:  Trump responded to Ryan being a decent human being by lashing out at Ryan for allegedly not doing his job.  Not sure if Trump could balance a budget if magically another trillion dollars of revenue appeared.

Base First Strategy: Trump’s base first strategy is under attack from Republicans who know how to do math.  Trump’s strategy is squared on turning out the Great Unwashed Working Class White Horde (or the Horde for short) in numbers that would have frightened Attila the Hun and Ghengus Khan.  The problem with that is that the Horde is losing members due to (1) anyone competent getting an education and becoming suburbanized, (2) heroin overdoses, and (3) the influx of other people the Horde hates.

Trump’s Base:  Speaking of Trump’s base, the Washington Post has a great piece on how the Horde is beginning to realize Trump cannot win.  This mirrors the Facebook discussions I see whenever the coal issue comes up back where I grew up among the Horde that was left behind in the post-industrial wasteland known as Greene County.

Foreign Policy:  Foreign Policy magazine has broken its half century tradition of not endorsing candidates for political office and has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President….


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Donald Trump says he ‘Regret’s his comment’s’

I see a man trying to play off a HISTORY of disrespectfull words and actions to women that isn’t gonna stop with these words, forced out of Trump in the face of a political shit storm…

I wonder if Sunday’s scheduled Town Hall is gonna happen?

Under fire for lewd comments about groping women, Donald Trump released a video statement late Friday in a bid to save his candidacy, apologizing and pledging to be a “better man.”

“I’ve said and done things I regret,” he said. “Anyone who knows me knows these words don’t reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize.”

“I pledge to be a better man tomorrow,” he said.

The tape has been a devastating blow to Trump’s campaign, with Republicans racing to distance themselves from their controversial nominee….


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Political Roundup for October 7, 2016…Early Voting Clinton firewall against Trump ?…RRH Elections


Clinton Weather Channel ad buy: The Clinton campaign is requesting the Weather Channel delay its $63,000 ad buy until after Hurricane Matthew passes. The campaign had been criticized as being “insensitive” and “tone deaf” for buying time on the channel at a time when viewership is expected to be very high during coverage of the hurricane.

Early voting: The Clinton campaign is banking on early voting helping them in Florida, Nevada and North Carolina. They are encouraging their supporters to vote early and hoping to bank enough early votes to make an insurmountable lead on Election Day. The campaign expects as much as 40% of votes in those states to be made before Election Day.

Latino vote: A tracking poll analysis by a group called Latino Decisions predicts Hillary Clinton to get the highest percentage of Latino votes ever. They predict she will win somewhere between 76.5 and 87.5 percent of Latino votes. The highest on record is 72% by Bill Clinton in 1996.

McMullin running mate: Those waiting on the edge of your seats to find out who Evan McMullin will pick for his running mate now have your answer. He has chosen Mindy Finn, a 35-year old political strategist who most recently has worked for the RNC as a senior digital strategist. She says she has been part of the group opposing Trump from the beginning and as she has encouraged others to run for office, now she says she has an “opportunity to walk the walk.”

Nevada: Somebody from Donald Trump’s campaign apparently didn’t tell him the right way to pronounce the name of the Silver State. At a campaign event in the state on Wednesday night, he insisted that the name is pronounced Nuh-VAH-dah(with the middle syllable pronounced like “odd”). But locals prefer the “Nuh-VAA-dah” pronunciation (with the middle syllable pronounced like “dad”). In fact, locals say it’s almost become a litmus test of sorts for presidential candidates to see whether they know how to pronounce it correctly.

#Never Trump Republicans: 30 former Republican congressmen and senators have signed a letter stating they will not vote for Trump because he “makes a mockery” of their principles and say he is “manifestly unqualified to be president.” Some of the signatories such as Mickey Edwards of Oklahoma and Jim Leach of Iowa endorsed Obama in 2008 and/or 2012 and many others were prominent moderates. Others such as Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire and Vin Weber of Minnesota were prominent Reagan era conservatives. The letter did not mention Hillary Clinton; some of the signatories say they will vote for her, others say they will vote for Gary Johnson while others will write in a candidate….


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Obama finds away to stall some deportations….(And move some up)

Cost Cutting moves by the Custom and Immigration Service and the Department of Justice has forced tens of thousands of deportation cases to be pushed back, allowing those effected to remain in the United States….

And some cases are being moved up faster as more judges are coming aboard to handle the case loads…

Does this sound kinda confused?

It IS….

The delays are being made as a cost-saving measure, according to federal officials, because of a lapse in enforcement that allowed immigrants who were supposed to be enrolled in an electronic monitoring program to go free. Some of those affected had failed to report to government offices to be fitted with G.P.S. ankle bracelets, according to a February memo from the chief immigration judge, Print Maggard, in Arlington, Va.

Now that the government will not have to pay the daily fee of $4 to $8 a person that it costs to monitor such bracelets, the immigrants’ cases have been pushed back for years, some until 2023, judges and federal officials said. The cases of those who met their reporting obligations are still being expedited, with some cases moving faster than lawyers and judges had expected.

“The whole thing is docket chaos,” said Paul Schmidt, who retired in June after a 30-year career working for federal immigration agencies, the last 13 years as an immigration judge.

It was not clear whether the immigrants’ failure to report was intentional or the result of unclear instructions. Deportations are carried out by two separate government agencies — the Department of Homeland Security, which arrests people charged with violating immigration laws, and the Executive Office for Immigration Review, a branch of the Justice Department that adjudicates deportations. It is common, lawyers and judges said, for immigrants who do not realize that the two agencies are distinct to betray their obligations out of confusion….

Along with the cases being postponed, other cases are being catapulted forward, sometimes by years, onto the dockets of judges who were recently hired to address the immigration system’s backlog of cases, which has reached record levels. And yet, lawyers say, even this attempt to speed things along could lead to more delays.

“In all of these cases, I’m going to go into the court date and say I was not given any chance to say whether or not I was available, so you have to adjourn this,” said Bryan S. Johnson, a private immigration lawyer in New York.

Many immigrants whose cases will now move faster and who would have sought pro bono counsel may also have to go to court unrepresented….


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Political Roundup for October 5th, 2016…Libertarian VP choice Weld to go after Trump…RRH Elections


Assange: In a move that no one at all saw coming, the promised Wikilikes “October Surprise” is going to be released gradually over the course of the next 10 weeks (which is a timeframe extending well past the actual election). Assange furiously declaring that people need to pay more attention to him is surprising only to those who’ve never dealt with attention trolls before. Next he’ll promise to tell you who actually killed JFK, if only you’ll tune in NEXT TIME, ON THE JULIAN ASSANGE SHOW!

CA-EV: In what is a tortured bit of legal reasoning even by “CA Dems are changing the rules in their favor” standards, CA SOS Alex Padilla has effectively removed Trump’s electors from the CA ballot. Basically, given that the American Independent Party (aka George Wallace’s old party) has also endorsed Trump and submitted their own list of electors before the Republican party did, CA SoS Alex Padilla has ruled that since the two lists are not identical, any Presidential votes for Trump will be over-votes and will simply not be counted. Granted, the odds of California voting for Trump are slim (and the odds that it would be the crucial state in the election are slimmer), but a state politician has effectively ejected a major party candidate from the Presidential ballot on one of the flimsiest excuses possible. Does anyone seriously think that Clinton would have had her electors removed from the ballot if the Peace and Freedom party had also nominated her for President?

Debate: In case you missed it, the VP debate was last night. If you did miss it, don’t bother catching up, as it was pretty boring all around (although most people are agreeing Pence won). The most notable parts of the whole thing were that Kaine is apparently unable to go two minutes without interrupting someone, and that the official GOP website accidentally (albeit accurately) jumped the gun in declaring that “everyone considered Pence the winner”.

Millennials: America’s most interesting age cohort has some wildly inconsistent political views. Depending on the phrasing, you can get millennial to support just about any side of an issue, apparently more so than older voters. This is a big part of why they’re not flocking behind Clinton—The reason they supported Obama so strongly was not because they were the next progressive foot soldiers, but rather because HOPE AND CHANGE!1! lined up with their quixotic views much better than Romney or McCain ever did. This further reinforces my idea that millennials are a very winnable demographic, just not with the GOP’s current set of policy positions–there’s a lot more malleability here than people think.

Trump: Snopes has debunked the claim that Trump said veterans with PTSD or who committed suicide were “weak”. As with most corrections to things the GOP Presidential candidate has or has not said, this will do exactly nothing to prevent the “Trump insults veterans” meme from continuing, as partisans at this point would probably believe Trump wants to re-impose slavery if he talked about a national effort program.

Weld: In a move that I’m surprised took this long, William Weld has said that he’s no longer going to be focused on actually trying to win voters, but rather to blast Trump at every opportunity. Considering how little traction the Libertarian ticket is getting and that Weld would probably have endorsed Clinton over even Generic R anyways, this is not unexpected, and is probably more of a CYA moment in the event that the Libertarian ticket winds up taking more from Clinton than Trump and giving the latter the presidency.


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Bill Clinton doesn’t believe in Obamacare….

Maybe his wife will let him help fix it next year?

The program DOES need fixing even President Obama and Hillary Clinton agree….

But it isn’t going away ….

Bill and Hillary Clinton’s attempts to get a Healthcare Law went down in flames in the 90’s….

But it isn’t going away ….

Former President Bill Clinton steamrolled President Obama’s signature healthcare law at a rally, calling it “the craziest thing in the world.”

Speaking Monday in Flint, Mich., Clinton blasted the core principles of ObamaCare as unworkable as he pitched a new system that would allow people to buy into Medicare or Medicaid.

“You’ve got this crazy system where all the sudden 25 million more people have healthcare and then the people are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half,” Clinton said.

“It’s the craziest thing in the world,” he said.

Clinton’s blunt remarks while campaigning for his wife, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, run in direct contrast to her previous promises to build on ObamaCare.

While acknowledging problems like rising drug costs, Hillary Clinton has largely embraced the healthcare law and criticized her Republican opponent, Donald Trump, for his repeated promise to repeal the law.

Trump’s campaign seized on Bill Clinton’s comments, arguing that he is siding with Republicans opposed to the law….


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Political Roundup for October 4, 2016…Reagan would NOT have voted for Trump…RRH Elections…


Reagan:  Michael Reagan, the son of the late President Ronald Reagan and stepson of the late First Lady Nancy Reagan, states neither of his parents would be voting for Donald Trump if they were alive.  In particular, he says Ronnie would be supporting Republicans downballot while Nancy would be voting for Hillary at the top of the ticket.  Even the most conservative presidential child in a generation is against Trump.

Libertarians/Liberaltarians:  Governor Gary Johnson’s campaign might be flailing a bit, but even if it continues to lose support it will likely be the strongest showing of a Libertarian ever.  New York magazine looks at this feat, but also looks at some of the unique circumstances fueling it.

Trump Foundation:  The New York Attorney General has ordered the Trump Foundation to stop accepting and soliciting donations due to concerns of the charity essentially being a scam.

Early Voting:  Trump and Clinton are playing the consistent themes of their campaign so far when it comes to early voting.  Trump is running a very haphazard operation based on rallies and people being compelled to vote for him on their own while the Clinton team is being very aggressive in pushing early voting.

Pennsylvania:  Politico has a piece on how “hostile” pollwatchers can impact elections in Pennsylvania.  As someone whose worked at the polls numerous times in Pennsylvania, I am not sure what Politico is getting at here especially having pollwatchers being aggressive requires a lot of organizational effort, which the Trump campaign is lacking.

Palin:  President Obama states what I have been saying for a long time… the nomination of Sarah Palin as vice presidential nominee in 2008 was the beginning of the end for the Republican Party as an electoral force as it changed the mood of the party….


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Political Roundup for October 3, 2016…Christie to Help Trump on Debate prep…RRH Elections

Shanah Tovah to all those celebrating. If you haven’t checked out our Row Officer Ratings from this weekend, give them a look for full recaps of the 54 Statewide Row Officers up this year!  Also, please take a look at this diary and see if you can help me refine which legislative races to focus on for the legislative previews I’m planning for later this month.


Trump’s Taxes: The NYT has been leaked Trump’s tax return from 1995, which shows that he took a $916M write-down on his assets.

Debate Prep: Christie will be coaching Trump on how to prepare for this Sunday’s Town Hall debate.

Alicia Machado: Trump spent much of Friday defending a 4AM tweetstorm continuing his feud with the former beauty queen turned newest Dem cause celebree.

Johnson: Johnson has continued his impressive run with newspaper editorial boards, for what little they’re worth, by picking up the support of the Chicago Tribune.

Stein: While mocking Gary Johnson for not being able to name a world leader he admire, Jill Stein was also unable to name a world leader she looked up to….


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The Constitution might void the just passed 9/11 Bill on Suing Saudi Arabia….

The 9/11 victims families pushed hard to be able to sue The Saudi Government….

It’s an election year and Republican’s eager to present President Obama with his first veto.  and incoming US Senate leader Chuck Schumer of New York making sure that a New York advantaged Bill gets thru Congress, was voted over President Obama’s protests about the unintended consequences of the Law…

True Obama NEVER really tried hard to work a deal with the Congress before things got down to vote….

So his veto WAS roundly overridden….

The second the vote was over ?

Several Congressmen began to get ‘buyers remorse ‘ on their vote….

Well Bloomberg Magazine is out with what could be a way for Congress show a vote to support the 9/11 families and make the Saudi’s and President Obama happy also….

It seems that the US Constituion may nullify the 9/11 Vote and Veto override….

At the risk of oversimplifying some truly complex issues in the law of civil procedure, here’s the issue. In passing the bill, Congress was amending a law called the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. That law says you can’t sue a foreign government in U.S. courts, except for a few specific exceptions, such as when the foreign government is engaged in U.S. commerce.

The terrorism bill added a new exception. It says that an American can sue a foreign government for damages “occurring in the United States and caused by an act of international terrorism in the United States; and a tortious act or acts of the foreign state … regardless where the tortious act or acts of the foreign state occurred.”

Translated into English, that means you can sue a foreign government when the act of terrorism occurred in the U.S., as the Sept. 11 attacks did, so long as the foreign government contributed to causing the attack. Under the act, it doesn’t matter where the foreign government contributed to causing the attack. In theory, if the Saudi government took actions within its own country to fund al-Qaeda and that contributed to the attacks, that would authorize the suit.

But the constitutional law that governs whom you can sue, and where, isn’t so simple — and because it’s based on the Constitution, Congress can’t legislate around it. According to the Supreme Court’s interpretation, a U.S. court must have what is called “personal jurisdiction” over any defendant for a lawsuit to go forward.

Personal jurisdiction comes in two flavors, general and specific. It would be almost impossible for the courts to have general jurisdiction over the government of Saudi Arabia, because a foreign entity must be “at home” to be sued under current precedent. It was on this ground that the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals recently rejected a lawsuit against the Palestinian Authority and Palestine Liberation Organization under the Anti-Terrorism Act. If the those groups are only “at home” in Ramallah, as the court held, the Saudi government is similarly only “at home” in Riyadh.

That leaves specific jurisdiction as the only way to haul the Saudi kingdom into court under the new bill. And the constitutional bar is probably higher than what Congress wrote into the law….


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