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Turns out the FBI WAS tapping someone in Trump Tower after all…

But the FBI was NOT tapping Trump….

They where listening to a Russian mobster operating IN Trump’s place….

The FBI had a court-sanctioned warrant for two years to monitor a Russian crime organization working out of a unit three floors below President Trump’s penthouse, according to an ABC News report.

Listening in on the Russians’ happenings resulted in north of 30 people being indicted in April 2013, with federal agents raiding the Trump Tower apartment. But the mastermind, Alimzhan Tokhtakhunov, got away and has since fled the United States justice system.

Later in 2013, ABC News notes, he was in the VIP section of Miss Universe Moscow not far from President Trump. The President had previously sold the rights to the Russian incarnation of the show to a billionaire developer based in the country.

Laptop with Trump Tower floor plans stolen from Secret Service
“He is a major player,” Mike Gaeta, lead agent on the FBI investigation, said of Tokhtakhunov in 2014. “He is prominent, he has extremely good connections in the business world as well as the criminal world, overseas, in Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, other countries.”

Tokhtakhunov is accused of having run a major gambling ring — headquartered out of unit 63A of Trump Tower — that saw $50 million of illegal money come into the U.S., according to ABC News….

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The FBI and other US Goverment agencies have been probing for Russia /Trump connections…

Anyone surprised at this?

Common sense would be that Obama would want a ‘look/see’ launched …..

Donald Trump will be the President in less than two days….

Does the investigation get shut down?

Who does the investigators report to?

What happens if Trump or any of his family or staff ARE implicated if this story is TRUE?

The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said.

The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said….

FBI Director Comey refused at a recent Senate hearing to comment on whether the bureau was investigating Russia’s hacking campaign for possible criminal prosecutions. Spokespeople for the FBI, the Justice Department and the national intelligence director declined to comment….

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Trump claims he knows what we don’t know that will clear the Russian’s…Red State…

….’The FBI and CIA both suggest that information they have points to Russian involvement in the DNC hacks, in order to use the information to help Trump get elected.

Trump has signaled his deep admiration for Russia’s ex-KGB president, Vladimir Putin, so is likely seen as a potential ally in forcing Russian interests in key areas, such as Syria and the Ukraine.

Trump, for his part, would like to see it all go away, and has suggested as much. His latest, on Saturday, is that he knows things others don’t know.

“I just want them to be sure, because it’s a pretty serious charge, and I want them to be sure,” Trump told pool reporters Saturday in Florida, where he is ringing in the new year.

“If you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster, and they were wrong. And so I want them to be sure,” he continued.

“I think it’s unfair if they don’t know. And I know a lot about hacking. And hacking is a very hard thing to prove. So it could be somebody else.”

“I also know things that other people don’t know, and so they cannot be sure of the situation,” Trump responded when asked why he doubts intelligence reports of Russian hacking, according to a pool reporter.

That’s a curious statement from an incoming president. We know he has daily security briefings made available to him now, but where do those briefings come from, if not the very intelligence community he’s blowing off?

And if the knowledge he claims to have is not coming from the intelligence community, where is it coming from?

He now says we’ll know Tuesday or Wednesday what he knows.

I’ll just put this out there as a little morsel to ruminate on: A U.S. president-elect is asking us to doubt the media, doubt U.S. intelligence, doubt other elected officials, all while assuring us that he is the only trustworthy voice and he is the only one who can save the nation (he has said as much).

Nothing about that should make you feel comfortable’….

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Trump Advisor announces FBI case against Hillary Clinton is OVER….

Any dounbts that Donald Trump WILL have the final Judgement on things when he is President should be gone….

Trump mouthpiece kellyanne Conway has announved that the Trump Justice Department will NOT pursue criminal charges against Hillary Clinton in the matter of her emails….

This announcement backs up FBI Director James Comey’s  point of view on the case….

But it also points up several others things…..

Trump as a political novice has done something out of the ordinary….

He has in fact IN PUBLIC TOLD his in coming Justice Department what he wants them to do….Iregardless of the legal chain of command….

He has served notice that unlike the Obama admin?

HE will NOT have the FBI Director tell HIM what he will do…..

This IS gonna create a conflict for him in the future …..

In the big picture ?

This announcement will make a LOT of polticans happy on BOTH sides of the fence….

Hillary Clinton and the staff people she worked with can pay their lawyers and breath easy….

Republicans worried about a MASS rising up of public and media against a ‘retaliatory ‘ political move to ‘Put Hillary In JaiL’ movement won’t be the overriding story for the next year….

President-elect Donald Trump has decided that he won’t seek criminal investigations related to former rival Hillary Clinton’s private email server or her family foundation, his campaign manager said Tuesday.

Trump’s apparent decison, conveyed by campaign manager Kellyanne Conway in an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,’’ is a change from his campaign rhetoric, in which he issued incendiary calls for a special prosecutor to reopen the FBI’s closed investigation of Clinton’s use of a private server while secretary of state and had also urged investigations of allegations of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. He nicknamed the Democratic nominee “Crooked Hillary” and encouraged chants of “Lock her up!” at his rallies.

Trump’s decision to pursue or not pursue a criminal investigation from the Oval Office would be an extraordinary break with political and legal protocol, which holds that the attorney general and FBI make decisions on whether to conduct investigations and file charges, free of pressure from the president.

Conway said Trump now sees things differently….

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This action joins others in pointing out how dumb a LOT of Trump supporters where in believing the guys BULL SHIT put out to get their vote….Trumpo has moved away from postions on Immigration, Abortion and other campaign promises already….

There will be more backtracking….

Will Trump’s announcement call of Rep. Chaffetz in the House?

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It’s close to Election Time….Crazy Shit comes out….

These are some The Hill’s piece’ s Headlines …FOR REAL.

Report: Indictment ‘likely’ in FBI’s Clinton Foundation probe

Hillary’s continuing trust problem proves ‘crooked’ label is sticking

Poll: Trump up 5 on Clinton among US voters in Israel

David Duke: Clinton ‘should be getting the electric chair’

McCaul: Clinton could be impeached if she wins

Pro-Trump ad hits Clinton aide Huma Abedin’s ‘Pakistani origin’

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The FBI and Cops are looking for a Suspect in the widening number of bomb’s found in the NY/NJ area….Breaking… Suspect is Caught…

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#BREAKING: Ahmad Rahami in custody after shooting police officer in Linden, NJ, source says http://4.nbcny.com/MXbt3W0

While NY City mayor Bill deBlasio was hesitant to use the word the ‘terrorism’ , and Foreign involvement when NY Police had responded to the first blast in the Chelsea section of Manhattan…..That does NOT seem to be the case….

Several other small devices have been found in New York City and close in New Jersey…

The FBI and the NY Joint Terrorist Task for Cops and Feds have announced that they are looking for one  naturalized citizen of Afghan descent, Ahmad Khan Rahami.

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, who said on Sunday that the attack did not appear to have a link to international terrorism, said new evidence might change that thinking.

“I would not be surprised if we did have a foreign connection to the act,” he said on CNN on Monday morning.

Mr. Rahami was born on Jan. 23, 1988, in Afghanistan. His last known address was in Elizabeth, N.J. He is described as about 5 feet 6 inches tall and about 200 pounds. Mr. Rahami has brown hair, brown eyes and brown facial hair.

A law enforcement official, who agreed to speak about the investigation only on the condition of anonymity, said they had evidence that Mr. Rahami was connected not just to the Manhattan explosion in the Chelsea neighborhood, but also to a bombing that took place earlier on Saturday on the Jersey Shore.

The city’s police commissioner, James O’Neill, directed the entire patrol force of the New York Police Department – 36,0000 officers – to step up their vigilance and be on the alert for Mr. Rahami.

Dozens of officers and federal agents were zeroing in on locations in New Jersey. At the same time, more than 1,000 officers from the city police force’s Critical Response Command and Emergency Service Unit were working to secure New York City landmarks, commuter hubs and other sensitive sites.

By midmorning on Monday, the police had handled dozens of calls for suspicious packages.

Hours before Mr. Rahami’s name was released, the police discovered five pipe bombs near a train station in Elizabeth, detonating one of them overnight as they sought to disarm them. Before dawn, agents conducted a series of raids in the New Jersey city…..

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Explosion in dumpster in Chelsea section of New York City injuries 29….

image….(Rashid Umar Abbasi/Reuters)

….from the NY Daily News….

An explosion ripped through a Chelsea street Saturday night — injuring at least 29 people and sending horrified witnesses scattering, Fire Department sources said.

The blast blew out the ground floor windows of the Associated Blind Housing facility at 135 W. 23rd St. near Sixth Ave. at about 8:30 p.m., a witness and an FDNY spokesman said.

“Officials are on the scene of an explosion on West 23 St in Manhattan at least 26 people injured. An unknown device was inside a dumpster,” Sergeants Benevolent Association head Ed Mullins tweeted.

The NYPD was questioning a possible suspect picked up about eight blocks away from the blast, sources said.

A witness said he felt and heard the blast while entering the 23rd St. subway station with his family.

Ryan McMillen, a history professor at Mercy College, turned around and saw the back of an SUV “totally blown out.”…..

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UPDATE: At least 29 injured in Chelsea explosion. Police investigating a 2nd device found on 27th Street.

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FBI unlikely to charge Clinton on email use…

The email communication where used by members of the CIA , Defense, State Dept. and even the FBI’s parent agency the Justice Dept. . For time sensitive info sharing during holiday and weekend away from office time ‘s…..

Th info shared was widely available OUTSIDE the US at the time and was NOT labeled ‘secret ‘…..

The info sharing was wide spread at the time….

While the Media and Republican’s have been going back to the issue…

The Wall Street Journal is reporting the case is all but done….

The FBI will speak to Clinton during the summer and finish out the case….

One HAS to think that President Obama has been briefed in on this before endorsing Clinton for President…..

The still-secret emails are a key part of the FBI investigation that has long dogged Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, these officials said.

They were written within the often-narrow time frame in which State Department officials had to decide whether or not to object to drone strikes before the CIA pulled the trigger, the officials said.

Law-enforcement and intelligence officials said State Department deliberations about the covert CIA drone program should have been conducted over a more secure government computer system designed to handle classified information.

State Department officials told FBI investigators they communicated via the less-secure system on a few instances, according to congressional and law-enforcement officials. It happened when decisions about imminent strikes had to be relayed fast and the U.S. diplomats in Pakistan or Washington didn’t have ready access to a more-secure system, either because it was night or they were traveling…

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Apple regularly gives the Feds data from its iCloud servers…

…..iCloud servers ARE unsecured ….

And have been hacked in the past….

Apple received requests for access to 2,727 iCloud and iTunes accounts from law enforcement in 2015, according to its transparency report. The company disclosed data in 81 percent of cases.

In the San Bernardino case, Apple turned over all of the backup data stored on the iCloud account of Syed Farook, one of two suspected shooters. It was only because Farook stopped backing up his iPhone on Oct. 19, 2015 — six weeks before the San Bernardino attack — that the FBI sought Apple’s help in retrieving data from Farook’s device, according to the Los Angeles Times.

In response to the FBI’s request, Apple CEO Tim Cook insisted that the company keeps user data off-limits even to its own engineers: “We have even put that data out of our own reach, because we believe the contents of your iPhone are none of our business,” Cook wrote in a letter to customers.

But at least for now, Apple can still access data stored on iCloud. The company encourages its customers to use the cloud service, and in 2014, Apple was estimated to have 500 million iCloud accounts, according to tech consulting firm Asymco.

The iCloud service has long been a weak spot in Apple’s security apparatus. In 2014, hackers obtained nude photos of several celebrities after reportedly breaking into their iCloud accounts…..

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FBI and Oregon State police take militia leaders in…One dead…One injuried…

Finally there is some action on this…..

One person died and at least seven others were taken into custody Tuesday when authorities confronted an armed protest group responsible for a nearly month-long occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Oregon, officials said.

Shots were fired, and self-styled protest leader Ammon Bundy was among a group of five people arrested on a state highway, officials said. One other person was hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries.

The incident began at 4:25 p.m. on State Highway 395 when agents of the FBI and Oregon State Police “began a law enforcement action” to take into custody those associated with the armed occupation of the refuge, authorities said in a statement.

The person who died was not identified, and no information was given on the cause of death. Officials said that this suspect “was a subject of a federal probable cause arrest.”

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President Obama to try to circumvent Congress and States on Gun Violence…

With a ‘leaked’ rollout….

President Obama is taking action against ‘Gun Violence ‘

The President is trying to do something about guns in a country that has a gun culture …..

The President is requiring background checks for more people buying guns…And licensing for more people selling guns…

And…

Require guns lost to be reported  to the Fed’s….

Those things would be done by executive order….

The President is asking Congress to approve $500 Mil for mental health treatment and money for more FBI and ATF agents….

He is NOT taking away anyone’s guns…

On the whole his unilateral actions probably will be Ok….

The money from Congress…

Probably won’t make the cut….

But the President CAN say he done’s something…

One shouldn’t surprised if the President’s action is challenged in the courts and never actually is implemented….

Oh, the clock is now running on a CLIMB in gun sales….

One dilemma for the Obama administration would be that a legal fight could put the executive actions on hold as a court deliberates, potentially dragging out the process until Obama leaves office next January. The president’s executive actions to defer the deportations of millions of undocumented immigrants, announced in 2014, have been held up in a legal battle that could head to the Supreme Court this spring.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if they try,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest said when asked whether gun rights advocates would mount a legal challenge, “but the arguments we could mobilize in a court of law would be powerful and persuasive.”

Obama’s plans already have resonated on the presidential campaign.

Every GOP presidential candidate who has spoken about Obama’s potential actions has vowed to reverse the executive order if elected president, underscoring the fragility of any initiative that has not won congressional approval…..

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The President has come out with this 10 months BEFORE Election Day 2016…More that enough time for the issue of Gun’s to take a back seat to Other issues….

The whole Gun issue will be ducked by Democrats in the South and the West, or tight races in red states….

Hillary Clinton backs the action….

But we’ll see if she bring this up next fall….

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Armed group takes control of a Federal building in Oregon….

The group is protesting  a father and son who have convicted of burning 130 acres os federal land to conceal their illegal poaching….

The two have support from the Bundy family, which has had past confrontations with federal authorities in the past…

They are occupying a federal building and the property around it and    are threatening to wage an armed fight against the government if authorities try to remove them from the land they are on and trying to send the father and son to prison to serve their sentences…..

This are American’s born and bread in the American West….

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward urged the public to stay away from the area as authorities work to resolve the standoff, according to the Oregonian.

“A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution,” Ward said in a statement reported by the paper. “For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation.”

Beth Anne Steele, an FBI spokeswoman in Portland, told the AP that the bureau was aware of the situation at the wildlife refuge, but she declined further comment.

A U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service spokesperson told CNN that the agency and the Bureau of Land Management are monitoring the armed protesters.

“While the situation is ongoing, the main concern is employee safety, and we can confirm that no federal staff were in the building at the time of the initial incident,” the spokesperson said. “We will continue to monitor the situation.”

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Syrian Refugee’s have to jump thru the hoops to get to America…

The Republicans here in American ALL seem to want to follow Donald Trump’s lead and NOT allow ANY Syrian refugees into this country….

That includes babies and kids…..

There is this misconception that once the Syrians walk across Europe….They will be able to just buy a plane ticket to America and just show up….

That’s NOT how it works…..

How are Syrian refugees referred to the U.S.?

The process begins with a referral from UNHCR. The U.N.’s refugee agency is responsible for registering some 15 million asylum seekers around the world, and providing aid and assistance until they are resettled abroad or (more likely) returned home once conditions ease. The registration process includes in-depth refugee interviews, home country reference checks and biological screening such as iris scans. Military combatants are weeded out.

Among those who pass background checks, a small percentage are referred for overseas resettlement based on criteria designed to determine the most vulnerable cases. This group may include survivors of torture, victims of sexual violence, targets of political persecution, the medically needy, families with multiple children and a female head of household.

What happens once a refugee is referred to the U.S.?

Our government performs its own intensive screening, a process that includes consultation from nine different government agencies. They meet weekly to review a refugee’s case file and, if appropriate, determine where in the U.S. the individual should be placed. When choosing where to place a refugee, officials consider factors such as existing family in the U.S., employment possibilities and special factors like access to needed medical treatment.

How do we know the refugees aren’t terrorists?

Every refugee goes through an intensive vetting process, but the precautions are increased for Syrians. Multiple law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies perform “the most rigorous screening of any traveler to the U.S.,” says a senior administration official…..

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Breaking…Fantasy Betting Outfits told to ‘Cease and Desist’ Operations in New York State…

Folks?

This IS NO Surprise…..

NY Atty Gen Eric T. Schneiderman has filed a action against DraftKings and FanDuel to STOP doing business in New York State because they are unlicensed gambling enterprises…..

About a month ago it was reported that a guy working for one of the two major Fantasy Sports outfits took info from his company and went to the other company and made a cool $350, 000 in one shot……

The feds are asking  questions, Nevada has also told the two comaopnies to stop doing business untill get gambling licenses,  Congress asked questions and the two companies said they’d handle things and it seemed that they INCREASED their on air advertising…..Ther first reaction to the NY order?….They’ve told people to contact the NY Atty Generals Office?

Not a good move…

Mr. Schneiderman began investigating the fantasy sites after a DraftKings employee inadvertently released internal betting data and that same week won $350,000 on the rival site, FanDuel, which is based in New York. A representative of DraftKings denied that the employee used the internal data to gain an advantage. Both fantasy companies had allowed employees to bet on rival sites, but no longer do. Mr. Schneiderman asked the two companies for a range of internal data and details on how they prevent fraud.

Nevada regulators ruled last month that daily fantasy sports should be considered gambling, not games of skill, and ordered fantasy companies to suspend operations until they secured gaming licenses. A Florida grand jury has subpoenaed records of the fantasy sports trade group, The United States attorney in Manhattan has begun an investigation, and the F.B.I. office in Boston, where DraftKings’ offices are, has begun interviewing fantasy players.

In addition, nearly a dozen states are considering some form of fantasy sports legislation, according to Gambling Compliance, an independent service that monitors gambling legislation.

Mr. Schneiderman also found some daily fantasy ads misleading, according to the people with knowledge of his inquiry….

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Securing the Pope Francis visist to the Big Apple…

Pope Francis will visit America from September 22 to September 27, 2015…..

He will be in New York City from the evening of Sept. 24 to early morning Sept. 27….

Let’s game out the security operation for the Pope in the Big Apple….

The Pope has his own personal security detail of Swiss Palace Guards that travel with him….

In his visit to America (Wash DC, NYC and Philly) his America personal security agency will be the US Secret Service….

As the Pope moves around NYC he and his whole party will be escorted/moved by the New York City Police Department….

The Police Department’s Highway unit will be leading the Pope’s motorcade which could be a long as 30 vehicles….

In that motorcade will be the famous Popemobile, His personal security people, Secret Service agents, his staff, media, a medical team from the NYC Fire Dept’s EMS service …..

The arrival at JFK Airport will handled by the Port Authority Police, who will provide an escort off the airport….And secure the arrival area’s and greeting crowds…

Once in New York….

The Pope will visit St Patrick’s Cathedral, Address the United nations, an East Harlem church,. And Madison Square garden….

He will sleep over the night of Sept 25th….

There has been a mention of a stop in New York Cities Central park….

For ALL of thes stops the New York Police will provide escorts and crowd control, just as they would for the running of the NY City Marathon race…It will involve large amounts of the NYPD’s 35,000 police officers …..

In Inanitionaddition, the NY Fire Department will to mobile its fire and EMS units to points along the route of the Papal motorcades to handle any medical emeergcy situations….

 

Due the large amount of people expected to come and see the Pope in the City…..

Outlying police departments will have increase their patrols….

New Jersey Transit, Port Authority  and MTA police departments will have increase staffing for crowd control and security on their train, bridge and tunnel facilities …..

Homeland Security TSA people may be deployed to these facilities also….

At the World Trade Center visit….Port Authority Police will be called on again to escort the Pope’s group….At Madison Square Garden NYPD and MTA police will have extra units, dogs and bomb squad members standing by because the facility has a train station below it…

The New York City Police Department will have it’s helicopters, Marine, Bomb, HazMat and others units working the Pope’s detail…

The Secret Service should surely have to call for help from other Homeland Security agencies including Border patrol and TSA ….

All of this will be going on in New City, The Bg Apple while the city hosted the Forest Hills US OpenTennis match, Baseball Games of the NY Yankee’s and NY Mets…

AND….

The Unted Nation’s annual General Assembly get together…..

That event will pull the US State Departmanet Dipoploamtaic Security agents into action providding securty for over 40 Foreign Ministers that will arive in the city….

Oh, Yea….

The Secret Service will be handling President Obama, which normaly would be the BIGGER movement, but will be drafted by the Pope….

They will also, like the State Depatment be proding security details for over 50 heads of state while the President and the Pope move around the city….

For EACH othe above arrivals?

The NYPD will assign it’s police escorts…..

 

New York City is gonna make a LOT of money from all of this…

Drivers in the city are gonna get screwed….

NYPD cops are gonna make money…

A LOT of Secret Service , FBI, Border patrol and other Federal peopel are gonna be spending a couple of weeks in the city….

Here’s the schedule….

Sept 24 (D.C., New York)
9:20 a.m. Address to Joint Session of the United States Congress
11:15 a.m. Visit to St. Patrick in the City and Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington
4:00 p.m. Depart from Joint Base Andrews
5:00 p.m. Arrival at John F. Kennedy International Airport
6:45 p.m. Evening Prayer (Vespers) at St. Patrick’s Cathedral

Sept 25 (New York)
8:30 a.m. Visit to the United Nations and Address to the United Nations General Assembly
11:30 a.m. Multi-religious service at 9/11 Memorial and Museum, World Trade Center
4:00 p.m. Visit to Our Lady Queen of Angels School, East Harlem
6:00 p.m. Mass at Madison Square Garden

Sept 26 (New York, Philadelphia)
8:40 a.m. Departure from John F. Kennedy International Airport
9:30 a.m. Arrival at Atlantic Aviation, Philadelphia
10:30 a.m. Mass at Cathedral Basilica of Sts. Peter and Paul, Philadelphia
4:45 p.m. Visit to Independence Mall
7:30 p.m. Visit to the Festival of Families Benjamin Franklin Parkway

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The FBI is NOT after Hillary Clinton concerning emails….

No they are NOT….

They are looking for HOW certain things classified as secret (Drones? and a few other things …no more then 10 in tens of thousands so far)

F.B.I. agents investigating Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private email server are seeking to determine who at the State Department passed highly classified information from secure networks to Mrs. Clinton’s personal account, according to law enforcement and diplomatic officials and others briefed on the investigation.

To track how the information flowed, agents will try to gain access to the email accounts of many State Department officials who worked there while Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the officials said. State Department employees apparently circulated the emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011, and some were ultimately forwarded to Mrs. Clinton.

They were not marked as classified, the State Department has said, and it is unclear whether its employees knew the origin of the information.

The F.B.I. is also trying to determine whether foreign powers, especially China or Russia, gained access to Mrs. Clinton’s private server, although at this point, any security breaches are speculation.

Law enforcement officials have said that Mrs. Clinton, who is seeking the 2016 Democratic nomination for president, is not a target of the investigation, and she has said there is no evidence that her account was hacked. There has also been no evidence that she broke the law, and many specialists believe the occasional appearance of classified information in her account was probably of marginal consequence….

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