Trump and Kelley ARE quietly closing the door on illegal/legal immigration to America…Open Thread for 11/22/17

Donald Trump kept talking about a Border Wall…Republicans kept talking about the big increases in Immigration Police….

Both things are still on hold in Congress….

But quietly ?

Beginning with John Kelley as Homeland Security head and now as the President’s chief of staff….We see how immigration policy is the domain of the American President…Not Congressional lawmakers….

From Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama America has had a tolerance and look the other way regarding illegal immigration…In fact the movement of the undocumented families has provided economic boosts to this country….

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But that isn’t what Republicans like….

Using the incidents of violence by a few who have recently come to America from Muslim counties and south of the border , the Grand Ole Party has pushed for closing down the border with a possible trillion dollar wall and going back to the days of immigration raids…..

The jawboning by Trump and media attention itself , along with the recent American economic downturn has cut down on undocumented arrivals….

Added to all this is the Trump Admin efforts to limit almost ANY people coming from Muslim countries to America…That efforts is being fought in the courts…There IS a color and religious angle in this and a political one also against Democrats , who make gains with new immigrants that can vote….


The Trump Admin is going after those promised to be able stay in this country legally by past American actions….

These efforts are an attempt to lock the doors against something that HAS been America from the days the place was born….

We will have to wait for the next Democratic President to crack the door open for the door to be cracked open….

President Trump’s vision of a “big, beautiful” wall along the Mexican border may never be realized, and almost certainly not as a 2,000-mile physical structure spanning sea to sea.

But in a systematic and less visible way, his administration is following a blueprint to reduce the number of foreigners living in the United States those who are undocumented and those here legallyand overhaul the U.S. immigration system for generations to come.

Across agencies and programs, federal officials are wielding executive authority to assemble a bureaucratic wall that could be more effective than any concrete and metal one. While some actions have drawn widespread attention, others have been put in place more quietly.

The administration has moved to slash the number of refugees, accelerate deportations and terminate the provisional residency of more than a million people, among other measures. On Monday, the Department of Homeland Security said nearly 60,000 Haitians allowed to stay in the United States after a devastating 2010 earthquake have until July 2019 to leave or obtain another form of legal status.

“He’s building a virtual wall by his actions and his rhetoric,” said Kevin Appleby, migration policy director for the Center for Migration Studies, a nonprofit think tank….


Note ….

No matter how hard they do try?

No one will be able to completely stop people from coming to America…legal or illegal…

THAT is impossible….

America IS growing less white and Republican….

Trump & Co. may slow the movement…

But they cannot stop it…


101 thoughts on “Trump and Kelley ARE quietly closing the door on illegal/legal immigration to America…Open Thread for 11/22/17”

  1. By the way, James. Thanks for adding the 5 previous comments. Now we have 15 instead of 10. Good addition.

    1. Morning People…..

      You welcome Z …..

      You and CG have been helpful in making this place better….

      And Props to Amy…..

  2. Didn’t see the issue today.

    Did Zreebs accuse me of being an “accountant” though? That’s pretty unusual.

  3. OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG,

    Rey grabs Kylo’s lightsaber in the last “Star Wars The Last Jedi” Teaser.

    What the heck is she up to.

  4. House votes AGAINST Impeachment of Donald Trump 358 to 58…….

    Those numbers indicate that A LOT of Democrats did not support the motion….

      1. Ok I see the issue with the recent comments…

        I agree…

        It should show the comment, or excerpt ….

        The widgets do NOT do that..

        I will discuss with my web person….

        Thanks Z…

  5. Breaking…..

    The House has passed a bill making it EASIER for people to carry a cocealed pistol across state lines……

    I have pointed out here that gun CONTROL is NOT something that America is serious about no matter how many mass violence by gun incidents we have….

  6. Trump has fully endorsed Roy Moore and McConnell backs off idea if not seating Moore if he wins.
    Time for McConnell and these other Republicans to fully endorse Jones or admit they are fine with a pedophile in the Senate if he votes their way.

    I knew this would happen. It’s following the same path as the Trump campaign after the Access Hollywood tape. Republicans talk tough, then fall in line.
    How many more times are some people going to be fooled by this silly notion that Republicans will have a backbone?

  7. Isn’t Roy Moore and his little gun an unrepentant sinner since he is lying to the world about his attraction to little girls?

    Not sure how these people sleep at night.

  8. Franklin Graham is one of the major leaders in the Evangelical Christian movement in this country.

    The question is not “why” he said it.

    The question is,what does this say about the state of mind of that movement ?Maybe RepubliCAN doesn’t agree with it ,but I would be so bold as to suggest that many more Evangelicals agree with a leader like Graham than him.

        1. Breaking

          The Supreme’s ok Trump’s full travel ban against Muslim countries pending an appeal…

          Trump gets another ‘W’

              1. CG?

                While I would like comment’s to be in the right post?

                The same issue is evident in just about EVERY other politioal site….

                I sometimes see people get a topic that has NOTHING to do with anything and keep going!

                I notice today the riding the Moore post….

                99.9% of ALL site’s have comments for each post….

                That isn’t gonna change here …At least for now….

                I’m continuing to try to track down and correct the leaking email thing…

  9. Zreebs,

    I’m actually not sure what Graham is talking about. I assume he was pandering to his followers, most of whom support trump. Either that or he’s saying that because trump has been clamping down on Islam, which does not make him a champion in my book.

    trump is an unrepentant sinner who wouldn’t hesitate to use the 10 commandments as toilet paper. I’m certain that he has violated all of them, sometimes daily (except maybe thou shalt not kill – and I’m not sure about that one).

    I’m not the only Christian who won’t support him due to his immorality. Of course, I wouldn’t support him for a number of other reasons as well, such as incompetence and treason.

  10. James, What actions have you taken to correct this problem? Fix this nonsense or assign us all fake emails.

    1. I have done some primary action within the site’s admin panel…

      But I’m going to give the issue to the hosts wordpress experts in the am…..

      The issue is above my expertise ….

      And the software is wordpress….

      In positng it up to the poster to ID themselves….

      It is up to me to let them in….

  11. Going back to Jack’s 3:51, I honestly wonder what Franklin Graham had in mind when he said that?

    I don’t think it is Trump’s comments on the poor, on abortion or on homosexuality is what got Graham’s approval. Perhaps Trump’s hatred and distortions of Muslims? Maybe RepubliCAN can explain. I can’t begin to understand that comment.

  12. Haven’t experienced this particular problem.

    Mine has been .with posts going through.Often I will have to post twice because the first one will seemingly not go through .Then when I try to post the second one,it will indicate a duplicate comment and then the original post appears.

    1. I get the double sometimes when the software doesn’t indicate the first went thru…

      Apple just did a bug fix for leaking email’s…

      I thought they fixed it…

      I’ll try the support people for wordpress at my host tomorrow…
      Thank’s everyone for your patience…

  13. james,
    HE IS.

    Yoda said so in “Return of the Jedi” at Dagobah before he died quote “Luke, when gone from this world I am the last of the Jedi you will be”

    Also if you look at the Text at the beginning of “The Force Awakens”:
    “Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed”.

    And Rian Johnson, the Director of the new Movie said “The Last Jedi” was always in his mind singular nor plural.

    So, if you add these 3 things together you probably can come to your own conclusions.

    Are you really that clumsy that you can’t put two and two together.

  14. Never in our lifetime have we had aPOTUS that was such a courageous champion of the Christian faith.
    Franklin Graham

    Anyone who thinks these Right Wing religious kooks care in the least about Muellers investigation and what it reveals needs to think again.

    These people who full blow onboard .I doubt there is anything that Trump could do to shake them loose.

    Combine this type of cultish devotion with their well known antipathy to “libruls”(essentially their name for Democrats ) and one should understand they will stick with Trump no matter what.

  15. Ok James, if you want me to acknowledge that you are or were the tooth fairy, then I believe you.

    Congrats! You won an argument!

  16. Congressman Ruben Kihuen (D-NV) is the latest to be brought into the sexual harassment against staff club. The DCCC leader is calling on him to resign, so they must know this was pretty bad.

  17. I’ll have a post on this later but the House is trying to do a Continuing Resolution to keep things running till Dec22……

    I know the media is fixated on the GOPer’s doing their thing….But..
    A final spending bill will HAVE TO HAVE some Democrat votes to pass….

    So all this GOP hardline stuff WILL have to watered down for Collins and the Democrats …..

  18. james,
    Spoilers are all over the place mate if you go around the net because the Movie is only 2 weeks away.

  19. james,
    Actor Adam Driver who portrays Ben Solo/Kylo Ren in Star Wars “The Last Jedi” gave a hint yesterday saying that he plays Kylo at a much younger age. There is a reasonable chance Kylo and Rey have a near identical age.

    In new Pictures we see Rey in Snokes Throneroom and Kylo behind her possible trying to protect his little sister. I think Leia gave birth to two babies just like Padme did and than gave someone else close to her in the new Republic permission to put Rey to Jakku protecting her from Snokes clutches knowing that if her son gets seduced to the dark side the galaxy and light side have still some hope. If you read the book “Bloodlines” Leia was very influential in the early stages of the New Republic. She could hide someone in no time with the Powers & Permissions she had.

  20. Breaking news-

    A White House official is confirming that Rex Tillerson is soon to be fired as Secretary of State and will be replaced by CIA Director Mike Pompeo. Apparently, Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton would replace Pompeo at CIA.

  21. Absolutely.

    It is past time that we end this cheering on Of the Flakes and Corkers.

    So they mouth off a little bit.Big Deal?

    Has any of their jawboning changed anything?No,nor will it.The days of calling Trump some names and declaring that such gives one some type of moral standing are over.Likewise, engaging in this weird exercise of declaring so and so a “moderate” or whatever .Who cares?

    The Republican Party is now the Donald Trump Party.

    Simple as that.

  22. There are reports that many believe Trump will be emboldened if the tax cut passes and will be even more likely to post and repeat patently false conspiracy theories like he did yesterday.

    At this point I consider every vote for a Republican or Republican vote for a Trump win a vote to continue the crazy. Jeff Flake and Bob Corker can “stand up” to Trump verbally all they want but if they give him a legislative win they are complicit. Simple as that

  23. I totally agree with the below analysis. But it is understated. Doesn’t history provide us with a warning of what can happen when our leaders no longer care if propaganda is real, or if our leader’s supporters are willing to justify anything to further their agenda? We have written many times here that the GOP brought us Trump. But perhaps the evolution of the GOP isn’t finished? what might it become in the future? At what point have we already passed that point? When will we know? When is it too late? Remember, there are people who we know who have criticized Obama for “hate” when he said “Voting is the best revenge”.

    The call for action is now. But I honestly don’t know what to do.

  24. Quick drop in:
    I think Rey & Kylo Ren are Twins in the Star Wars Movie The Last Jedi coming to Theatres Dec. 14.

  25. james, there may be something you need to look into regarding the site.

    The comment box on my computer showed up as a default with RepubliCAN’s name and an email address. Kind of weird.

  26. I’m pretty sure his kids didn’t think he would win either. Well Eric probably didn’t put any thought into it.

    1. Trump winning has screwed ALL of his family members….
      Mueller and maybe the NYS AG is going thru their stuff with a fine toothed comb…..

      They are used to do their dirty work undercover…

  27. Hey maybe Melanie is smarter than generally thought.

    I mean perhaps she really thought,”who the Hell would be dumb enough to make Donald President Of the United States?”

    She obviously doesn’t understand today’s Republican Party.

  28. Interesting from Political Wire….

    Melanie Trump never wanted to be First Lady and only acquiesced in Trumps candidacy in 2016 because she was tired of his constant toying with the idea and she didn’t think he would win anyway.

    1. Trimp’s THIRD wife could find herself in Hillary Clinton’s shoes if the rumors are correct about her husbands visits to Russia….

      Last year revelations could turn out to be a picnic?

        1. .@SenWarren responds to Trump calling her “Pocahontas” in front of Navajo code talkers

          Politico via Twitter

            1. Federal judge appointed by Trump refuses to issue an injunction against Trump appointment to temporarily lead the CFPB…..Mulvaney ….

              1. Mulvaney has issued a halt in the agency’s dukes and regulations….

                He has been on the record that he feels the agency is Too good at holding companies accountable to the tune of almost a BILLION DOLLARS….

              2. Try THIS ON…..


                Charlotte Alter‏

                I covered the campaign last year. Over and over men insinuated that women’s analysis of HRC’s candidacy were “biased,” or “subjective,” or “opinion.”

                When women wrote about Hillary, it was a “feminist take.” When men wrote about Hillary, it was “the truth.”

  29. I am not troubled with cutbacks in immigration – especially illegal immigration. While there are dangers of a too restrictive policy, one only has to look at Europe to see that open borders can be a problem.

      1. Florida politics is in a rock and roll….(And what about the influx of Democratic voting Puerto Ricans and pissed of Haitian’s?)

        John Morgan: I’m leaving Democratic party, Nelson should run for governor

        John Morgan tossed a bomb Friday into the 2018 political landscape, saying in a post-Thanksgiving message he is leaving the Democratic Party, and that Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson should not run for re-election, but rather seek the governor’s mansion so he can leave a “legacy.”

        “I can’t muster enthusiasm for any of today’s politicians,” the prominent trial lawyer and Democratic fundraiser wrote on Twitter. “They are all the same. Both parties. I plan to register as an independent and when I vote, vote for the lesser of two evils.”…


  30. I don’t think we are seeing any actual signs of mass deportation or any indication that the Administration is planning to do that. Thus, the commentary is misleading. Rhetoric about “the wall” appears to be just rhetoric, designed as red meat for the base, and even if enacted would not effect the people who are already here and who are not convicted of crimes.

    And let’s remember that Obama certainly presided over a lot of deportations which angered many activists on the issue.

    1. In fact there HAS BEEN a resumption of raid’s carried out by ICE and a admittance that if the locxal cops don’t bring them the low hanging fruit with their traffic and low crime touches?

      They will have to resort to raids to make their numbers…

      This the REAL CG….

        1. People just won’t stop hurting other people...HATE is universal.


          The Wall Street Journal
          Death toll in Egypt mosque attack rises to 200, assailants detonated bomb before firing at people trying to flee

          1. Oh, Snap….
            Miami loses!


            Panthers pull it off!

            7-loss Pitt stuns No. 2 Miami, ending the longest win streak in FBS at 15.

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