Republicans….WTF try to pass something only 24% of Americans support?

Update….

It now up to Alaska Sen Lisa Murkowski….

Republican Senator’s Paul, Collins and now McCain will vote AGAINST the Graham/Cassidy Healthcare Repeal Bill….

As we wait for the US Senate to possibly vote AGAIN on trying to back up their pledge to get rid of a Obama healthcare program that they themselves have made more popular….

We see a crescendo of reasons why the Graham/Cassidy Bill is witout any merit EXCEPT to do something that the Grand Ole Party is choking on that needs fixing NOT a misguided hard sell campaign push that could send tens of millions of Americans out of their healthcare insurance….

Some Republicans appear to deaf, dumb and blind on this….

A new poll finds that just 24 percent of voters support the Graham-Cassidy ObamaCare repeal bill.

The poll from the left-leaning Public Policy Polling finds that 24 percent approve of the new ObamaCare repeal and replacement bill, while 50 percent disapprove.

The low approval number comes as the Senate is heading towards a possible vote on the legislation next week, and as backers are still trying to rally support.

The poll was highlighted by several Democratic groups seeking to defend the Affordable Care Act.

In addition, 46 percent of voters said they would be less likely to vote for a member of Congress if he or she voted for Graham-Cassidy, while 23 percent would be more likely.

Seventy-seven percent said they agreed with late-night host Jimmy Kimmel that no one should be denied coverage because they cannot afford it…..

More….

Note….

…’One official said the concerns from governors have alarmed some in the White House — and that “we really aren’t sure what the impact will be” of passing the bill. They also fear that the bill could bring political blowback from the left and right.

Trump has publicly expressed enthusiasm about the bill, tweeting about it repeatedly. But in conversations with aides, he has turned back to one topic: What can the White House do that is seen as “repeal and replace?” a phrase he likes to repeat’…

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My Name Is jack
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Lies from the Trump White House?

Shocking!

Keith
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Gee, thanks James. I think it’s important to correct the record on issues like this.

I too would like to move past simply talking about how Hillary lost and focus on not letting a foreign power meddle in our next election. Something the Republicans don’t seem interested in.

Not enough has been said about the Russian hacking, because I fear it was more extensive than previously thought.

Keith
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Corey’s above statements need some serious fact checking, and lack a basic understanding how the legislative process works. When the Democratic Congress passed the Affordable Care Act in 2010 without a single Republican vote, they were criticized for being too partisan. In the end, however, the bill included many Republican ideas (and, of course, the basic design for the legislation came from the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney). The keystone principle of the act — a mandate that all Americans buy health insurance — is… Read more »
CG
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McCain in his statement also indicated he would be willing to vote for it after it had hearings, etc. So, he doesn’t seem to necessarily have a problem with the merits or concepts of the proposals. I agree that would be optimal, as well as bipartisan, as I said on here today before his announcement, but as we all know, there is a deadline that would have made that impossible. I know that a regular Republican President would have already gotten Obamacare repeal and replaced… Read more »
CG
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McCain in his statement clearly said he did not want to vote for something that was done in the irregular order process such as Obamacare. It’s part of his statement. He also says Graham, Cassidy, et al were acting in the best interest of the country. I agree, as is Senator McCain. I wish others here would agree with him as well on that. I still look forward to reading jack’s detailed bipartisan proposals to take care of the problems of Obamacare that do not… Read more »
Keith
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McCain wants regular order, you know the kind they used when they passed the Affordable Care Act. That bill went through the hearing and amendment process, and contrary to the propaganda you might read here, the folks who voted for passage understood what was in the bill. Also, it is very important to remember that there were (I believe off the top of my head) 180 accepted amendments to the Act before it went to the floor for final passage. Many of those amendments were… Read more »
Scott p
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Expect a Twitterstorm directed at McCain from our Toddler in Chief

Keith
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Well there goes McCain’s bromance with Ms. Lindsay. Good on you John, and good on Jimmy Kimmel too.

Democratic Socialist Dave
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Democratic Socialist Dave
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Sen. John McCain will vote against Graham-Cassidy health-care bill Dan Nowicki, The [Arizona] Republic | azcentral.com Published 11:19 a.m. MT Sept. 22, 2017 For the second time in two months, Sen. John McCain is giving the thumbs down to his fellow Republicans’ efforts to roll back the Affordable Care Act. “I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal,” McCain, R-Ariz., announced Friday in a written statement. “I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried.… Read more »
B-Dog
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There is a saying for what the Republicans keeps trying to…do the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results…That’s called something right… I think the Republicans are truly in a bind…they have been saying for years…Repeal Obamacare, Deport all the illegals, America back to being America again (which I presume to mean largely for white people, and even that definition has changed over the last 170 years) which are all to appease their basket of deplorable base so that they can use… Read more »
CG
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So, I want to know what your SPECIFIC plan?

I will check back later. I expect to see many paragraphs and possibly links.

My Name Is jack
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I already have on many occasions ,but Single Payer is not on the agenda presently ,and I forthrightly have admitted is going nowhere under a Republican Administration and a Republican Congress. Good try at obfuscation though. No the legislation is coming up for a vote ,has a chance of actually becoming the new health law the country in the next few weeks and being signed into law by the Republican President. With your full support. Truth is youre praying right now that it doesn’t pass… Read more »
CG
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I don’t have them but I am familiar with your volatility. As you said though, it’s often just for effect.

I have to go do some actual work now, but hope to check back later. I can’t get elected and make health care decisions for America if I do not show that I can take my real job responsibly when required to.

Democratic Socialist Dave
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Trump takes softer approach to wooing Murkowski’s health care swing vote By Julia Jacobs [Boston] Globe Correspondent September 21, 2017 …..But on the ground in Alaska, where health care is more expensive than in any other state in the country, the push for Murkowski to oppose the Graham-Cassidy bill is apparent. On Tuesday, Alaska Governor Bill Walker, an independent, signed onto a letter urging Senate leaders to forget the new, divisive bill and opt for bipartisan health care overhaul legislation that helps stabilize the market.… Read more »
My Name Is jack
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I see,one challenges you , then one is having a “temper tantrum.”

I’ll remember that line.

CG
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What specifically is *your* plan? Besides single payer, since that obviously has nowhere near enough votes.

Please be specific and detailed jack. It should be easier for you as you are much older and wiser than I.

CG
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So, it was not imploding before 1/20/17? This just happened because of Trump?

Beam Me Up.

My Name Is jack
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The reason it is imploding according to the health insurance companies is because of the Republican Administrations refusal to commit to funding the subsidies that would enable them to stabilize the market(which You u claim to be concerned about.) Just this week in SC BCBS said that they would have to increase premiums up to aThird because of the Republican Administrations antics but that if the subsidies were guaranteed then the increase would be much less. Just mouthing off that you support “federalism” as your… Read more »
Democratic Socialist Dave
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Rewarding bad behaviour (I thought the GOP were big on “accountability” — rewarding good decisions and penalising bad ones, but then the Party of Honest Abe has its own definitions of ‘Good’ and ‘Bad’): bostonglobe.com Report: Medicaid-expansion states to lose $180 billion under Cassidy-Graham plan By Amy Goldstein Washington Post September 21, 2017 A new analysis released Thursday buttresses a growing body of evidence that the Senate’s Cassidy-Graham health care bill would slash federal spending on health coverage and cause most states to lose billions… Read more »
CG
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Yes, you are having a senior temper tantrum today. Be happy, it’s Friday, we are not at war with North Korea as of this moment, and if the bill isn’t going to pass, you have nothing to complain about.

The people being harmed under the Obamacare status quo are on their own, right?

My Name Is jack
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The real problem here is that you are sorry you originally said you were “for” this pile of crap and now you are twisting and turning in a rather humorous attempt to justify your admitted ignorance of what is even in it.

And gee Im a “whiner” and a “brat?”

Wow!

Ain’t I cool?

CG
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Yes, I have stated on numerous occasions that I like the concept of federalism, in which the Obamacare mandates and taxes are repealed (though nowhere near enough for Rand Paul) and then states can adopt their own plans, be they liberal plans or conservative plans or in between.

Obamacare is imploding right now, causing real pain to people, and I do not know what a better option is at the time being.

My Name Is jack
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What “reason?”

All you’ve done is admitted you are really not sure what’s in the legislation ,but you are sure that it is better than Obamacare.

CG
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I told you why I support it based on the information I have. I’ve been very specific. You can whine if you wish.

Nobody else here has any concerns or ideas about what is going on with Obamacare now or how to fix it other than “Single Payer.”

My Name Is jack
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Good

You’re essentially admitting what Scott alluded to earlier.

You have no idea what’s in this bill and are for it because you’re part of the “base” of the Republican Party who just wants anything to replace the hated Obama legislation.

We can all remember this when you next start your pompous sanctimonious blather about only wanting what is “good” for the country routine,

CG
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Susan Collins should vote her conscience. If she decides to vote no, and even if it is the deciding vote, I will not have any personal criticism of her or in anyway question her right to be a Republican.

CG
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I’ve given my reasoning for my opinion. That is not something that others here ever tend to do, with the possible exception of DSD.

Democratic Socialist Dave
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Heaven alone knows (although had the CBO more time, we might have a better idea) what this will do to the already-highly-confused system of employer-based health insurance.

My Name Is jack
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Oh come onCG ,a “brat” just because you don’t have the integrity to defend this hodgepodge of cow manure that Doc Cassidyand Lindsay slapped together to satisfy members of the Trump Republican Party like you?

I trust the integrity of Susan Collins in these matters over you and “what you’ve read.”

CG
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Even you can learn something from james (non spelling-related.)

CG
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If I were to try to ask your or anyone else here to provide detail reasoning for supporting legislation that I have problems with, you would laugh.

My Name Is jack
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Also I am enjoying this little civics lesson you are giving us today.

Gee the “representatives “can pass a bill and it doesn’t matter what public opinion is.

I didn’t know that!

I fear you have been reading too many of James posts!

CG
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When you elect me to Congress, you can hold me accountable that way and vote me out if you don’t like my votes. Otherwise, you sound like a brat right now.

Based on what I have heard, people cannot be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions and states must have standards that allow for affordable coverage in those situations, using wonky formulas, similar to how the CHIPs program is run.

My Name Is jack
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I would think that a”free enterpriser” like you would be somewhat concerned that the “free enterprise ” health insurance companies all oppose this bill and say it would create “havoc” with the market,

My Name Is jack
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Susan Collins said today that the fine print of this bill you support would essentially deprive those with pre existing conditions of being able to purchase health insurance . You support that? You believe that is “…the best possible bill at this time?” Why don’t,instead of just mouthing off your partisan political talking points of the Trump Republican Party ,you do some uh “due diligence and then get back to us as to specifically how this bill,that Chuck Grassley candidly admitted that he was supporting… Read more »
CG
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It’s probably “bad” in both senses in terms of lack of transparency, and the inability to attract bipartisan support. It’s irrelevant in both senses in regards to public opinion polls, if the elected Representatives believe it is the right thing to do.

So, I am being consistent on this completely. If someone thinks this is “bad” for the reasons stated, then the same would have to apply towards the process used to pass Obamacare.

CG
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As I have said before, I am not a Member of Congress. If I were, I would have to do more due diligence, but based on what I know as a lay-person, it is the best possible bill at this time to address a problem. I have faith in the ability of the states, including the states that would not agree with me politically, to address issues for their own states.

Scott p
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So Obama passing something that wasn’t popular at the time=bad. Republicans passing something far more unpopular=good.

Makes sense

My Name Is jack
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You’re still for it right?

You would vote “yes” right?

Everyone knows that if it doesn’t have the votes it won’t pass.

Thanks for “informing” us.

CG
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If they don’t have the votes in Congress, it won’t pass, so what are you worried about?

However, it is not like Obama and the Democrats cared about the unpopularity of Obamacare when they rammed it through, using every tick in the book. Remember, “we have to pass the bill before we can see what is in it?”