Republican Healthcare Repeal efforts could come back to haunt them next November…

Americans ain’t gonna be happy if they are receiving letters in the mail telling them they have lost their healthcare issurance RIGHT BEFORE  next years Midterm elections….

It’s like the Republicans REALLY don’t want to keep their majorities in Congress, eh?

The Republicans’ latest drive to repeal Obamacare is reminiscent of a poetry fragment from Tennyson’s “The Charge of the Light Brigade”: “Theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why.”

Whatever happens with the bill likely slated to reach the Senate floor next week, it is hard to escape the feeling that this wild charge will end badly for the Republicans.

In belatedly pushing the legislation(sponsored by Lindsey Graham, Bill Cassidy, Ron Johnson and Dean Heller), Mitch McConnell and the GOP leadership have absorbed none of the lessons from the dramatic failure of the last Senate repeal effort with an ailing John McCaincasting the decisive “no” vote.

What has been baffling the Republicans since the days of Social Security and then Medicare is that social welfare programs with middle-class beneficiaries grow more popular over time. American voters, for understandable reasons, do not support legislative efforts to take away benefits that they have been receiving.

As a result, the only voters still passionate about repealing Obamacare are hardcore conservatives.

A Quinnipiac University poll, conducted in early August, found that 60 percent of registered voters (including 28 percent of Republicans) believe that it is time for Congress to move on. And recent surveys have also found that a majority of voters now approve of the once-reviled 2010 legislation known as Obamacare….


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38 thoughts on “Republican Healthcare Repeal efforts could come back to haunt them next November…”

  1. There’s this fantasy that people are not losing coverage and facing sky-high premiums now under Obamacare. I imagine they are pretty upset.

    Also, there continues to be the distortion that people who voluntarily would drop coverage would be losing it against their will. No, it would be their choice, whether a smart one or not.

  2. CG continues to try to persuade us what he evidently believes: that people who can’t afford higher premiums, co-pays or deductibles are making some kind of free choice (exercising consumer sovereignty) when they don’t insure the health of themselves, their families or their employees.

    If costs go up high enough or fast enough, the effect is identical to having the government kick you off insurance.

  3. People can’t afford the premiums under Obamacare now. That’s the problem.

    The solution from the left seems to be to let it implode on their own so there is no other choice by a European style Single Payer system. How is that compassionate for those in trouble now?

  4. And yes, there are clearly people who can afford insurance but will choose not to buy it. They are counted as “losing” coverage. The choice is theirs.

    Nobody is forcing them to make it. If you think they should be forced, it should be done at the state level, not the federal level. States should be allowed to implement any healthcare system they want and then we can see what works best and where.

  5. You support Graham Cassidy, plan that it’s sponsors won’t have analyzed by CBO for its effect on the premiums you profess to be concerned about.

    Your protests ring hollow,

  6. It seems like the better option. There is no such thing as a perfect option. You were extremely critical of me before because I tended to oppose the other plans put forward and you suggested that I would just oppose anything.

    It is easy to be a Democrat and just say “no” reflexively to anything that might be associated with Republicans.

  7. You mean you have for what?Seven years now reflexively said “no” to Obamacare?

    You claim to be concerned that premiums were rising too fast under Obamacare.,yet are now supporting a program that you have not the slightest idea will do anything to lower premiums while your preferred presidential candidate,John Kasich, opposes it for that reason among others.

    Finally, now you act as if your support for GC is because of a remark I made to you?

    Are you serious?

  8. You would oppose the Kasich-Hickenlooper plan in a second too.

    If the GC plan (or CG plan if you will) is bad for a particular state, the state can take its own action.

    If they don’t have the votes in Congress, this is all moot anyway, so what are you worried about?

  9. I said weeks ago that Graham-Cassidy seemed like a viable option as did the Kasich plan.

    You said that Graham-Cassidy would be a “good starting point” but I don’t think you really meant that. You made it clear it’s Single Payer or Bust later that day.

    It wasn’t you that lead me to believe though that the plan is the best alternative today. It was actually a Jeb Bush op-ed. I know, he might be “evil” too.

    Talk later.

  10. Once again trying to change the discussion to suit yourself.

    Here’s what we know.

    You are supporting aplan that your own preferred presidential candidate opposes, that there is no evidence whatsoever it will lower premiums ,that will cut the amedicaid funds going to many state,that will allow individual states to cease subsidizing premiums for lower and moderate income people and then you come on here and say No No No to Obamacare

    It is good ,however, to see you and your Republican President supporting the same program.

    Another of the many examples of how,despite your personal dislike of him , you support most of the Trump agenda.

  11. I don’t believe Jen Bush is evil or have I ever said he was.

    It is amusing how ,when you get obviously frustrated when confronted by inconvenient facts ,that you often accuse me and others of things we have never said nor commented on.

  12. Jeb Bush was my preferred Presidential candidate in 2016.

    He still would be if he ran, but I don’t see that happening.

    Kasich’s plan would be better than Obamacare, but I think this proposal seems better, with the federalism aspect, and allowing states to make their own choices.

    The “evil” thing was just playing off what Zreebs said about me when I was at lunch. That’s fine though. I don’t think Zreebs actually believes that me. He just got stuck in the pantsuit and had to take it somewhere.

  13. It might be my fault for not realizing that not everyone here closely reads everyone else’s comments. Sometimes “jack” thinks everything I say, whether tongue in cheek or not, is directly in response to him.

  14. Trump would come out in favor of literally anything, as long as he can claim he got rid of Obamacare. He doesn’t understand this issue. Hopefully, it makes him crazy inside to have to praise Lindsey Graham.

    Trump is going to Trump. Those of us who want to improve the lives of Americans are just going to have to accept that as long as he remains President. He’s going to gloat over DACA too, but the alternative is a bunch of deportations of people who do not deserve it, so let the SOB gloat.

  15. Ok, I looked into it and in March 2008, when I wrote a parody version of Elton John dedicating “Candle In the Wind” to Hillary Clinton, I DID make (one) pantsuit reference.

    An excerpt:

    “And it seems to me you lived your life
    Like a President-destined-to be
    Those who oppose you shall be rendered moot
    We really need you, our leader in a pantsuit”

    That’s it. I’m GUILTY! GUILTY!

  16. Thanks to some quick analytics, I was able to determine that in the entire history of, from its inception July 2006 to the present, the word “pantsuit” (and variations of) has appeared four times.

    Once in the Elton John parody as above, once in reference to the “Nixon in a pantsuit” characterization, most recently when I praised Hillary for wearing a red pantsuit in the debate, for trying to appeal to disaffected Republicans, and once when I noted the unfortunate optics of her discussing her little email server problem to reporters while wearing a bright orange pantsuit.
    (Don’t even pretend you folks did not think the same thing at the time.)

  17. Apparently, there are over 400 examples of David Letterman referencing Hillary Clinton and pantsuit during his monologues.

  18. And, before getting too serious, let’s face it:

    it was The Candidate Herself who used to refer at her campaign rallies, as well as at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, to “The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pantsuits”

    See, for example, Katrina vanden Heuvel (editor of The Nation and about as diametrically opposite to CG as one could be within the sphere of sane, civil, democratic discourse) in August 2008:

  19. ABC’s “black-ish” (which is a really funny show) had an entire episode around the premise that the son lost a Student Council election because he wore a Hillary-like pantsuit to a debate.

    Apparently though, it has been revealed that I started this hateful trend by my constant (details lacking) repetition of anti-pantsuit vitriol on sometime in the previous decade.

  20. In all fairness, I did forget to (but wanted) to mention that Trump wore a mismatched suit jacket and pants last week.

    Very weak. Very sad.

    1. I hope no one here is serious about Clinton’s pant’s suit thing….
      Probably much easier to move around and women ARE much more conscious of their body image ,….

      We could talk about Trump’s hats and suit size also….

  21. To CG’s 1:27, what Democrat wants Obamacare to implode? That is an idea voiced by Republicans. Corey either believes or wants to believe that if Republicans are willing to do something like that, then Democrats must also.p be willing to do it.

    Until we adopt a single payer system, I would very strongly support any and all changes to Obamacare that would make it better. And I don’t know a single Democrat who wouldn’t.

    And regarding Corey’s denial that he used to frequently mock Hillary for her pant suits, I honestly am surprised that no one else here remembers it,

  22. Regarding CG’s 2:04, perhaps “evil” is too strong of a word that is best left for neo-nazis. Maybe something closer to “morally indefensible” would have been more appropriate. I am amazed though what Corey is willing to justify. For example, he sugggests that he supports emergency room care for the poor, but for a relatively small additional cost more, we can offer preventative care, which ultimately is not that much more expensive.

  23. I remember the pantsuit thing for sure Zreebs! Just as I remember the comments about how Republicans were more patriotic over the Iraqi war.

    The thing to remember is that Corey always reads these comments and he knows what he did, and didn’t say, on both topics. And, if he’s honest, he knows we know.

    But, of course, the Congress has an implied responsibility to fix Obamacare (legislation that was written through the regular order) rather than replace the existing system with this piece of crap.

  24. Nope completely false. There is no record of me ever saying that I thought people who opposed the Iraq War were “unpatriotic”, because that is not something I ever believed, and on my blog, going back to 2006, I am on record saying just that. I would hope that those who opposed it believe that those who supported it were also “patriotic.” On the broader issue of fighting terrorism, I said that people on the left were “foolish” but also most definitely “well-intentioned”, so I have been completely consistent from the start. It’s all there in my own words from the time. Nice try.

    On the pantsuit thing, how ridiculous can one be? I have no memory of whatever jokes I might have made over a decade ago, and oddly enough neither do Zreebs or Keith, (what was a punchline?) but I found just four examples of the word appearing on my blog over 11 years, none of which were actually criticizing her for wearing a pantsuit. In the meantime, David Letterman made hundreds of jokes on the topic for years and Hillary lists “pantsuit aficionado” on her Twitter bio. For goodness sake, the last thing I would have wanted for her to do is to not wear pantsuits or slacks.

  25. Politicalwire– Insurers Say GOP Bill Would Create Chaos

    Republicans by and large simply don’t care about that. They don’t want chaos in their base–who was promised a repeal of everything the black guy did.

    1. Nate Silver @ natesilver538

      Dean Heller flipping from “a weak no to a firm yes” is key to why the GOP health care bill came back from the dead.

      1. Taegan Goodard@Polticalwire

        Wow… The GOP wants Murkowski to vote for Obamacare repeal by promising not to repeal in her state

  26. What other motive could there be Scott? Motive is important right? Do we think they know what is in the bill yet?

    And like I said, our friend always reads the comments, and, of course, he protests too much. Misogyny comes in all sorts of forms, but this denial doesn’t pass the smell test.

    I am baffled that Corey, with a well established dislike of Hillary Clinton, wouldn’t simply admit to his comments about her appearance.

    Perhaps we should demand an apology, he always does.

  27. Just to respond to CG who essentially called me a liar For saying he was obsessed with Hillary’s pantsuits. I wasn’t referring to the number of times CG posted to his blog. Unlike pdog1 – which is regularly viewed by people from all continents -Nobody regularly reads CG’s blog other than the Texan. AndCG certainly didn’t post to his own blog every day or even every third day like he did with his daily dozen or so posts to politics1.

    I rarely watched Letterman so I don’t know if he shared CG’s obsession at the time with it. Isn’t it rather amusing that CG counted the number of times Letterman used it. Right, CG has no obsession! Counting Letterman’s quotes is something normal people do! And of course I don’t remember the punchlines. I do knows this – Other than in commenting on CG’s (prior?) obsession, I almost never use that word in my personal conversations, and I almost never hear anyone else (other than CG) use it either, and that is why I remember his comments.

  28. Reading more about probable future REPUBLICAN Senator Roy Moore I wonder if he considers pantsuits evidence of the US turning away from it’s rightful Christian path.

    What a nut. But I bet he will be a Republican star immediately.

  29. Oh yes indeed.

    He will be the poster child for the religious Right who comprise perhaps the single biggest bloc of the Republican “base.”

    And his nutty as a fruitcake.Think how extreme one has to be to suffer removal from his elected position as Chief Justice of the Labama Supreme Court.

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