Donald Trump has been President for Six Months…Open Thread for 7/16/17….

Actually ?

It will be six month on July 20, 2017….

Some of us didn’t think he’d get this far….

But he HAS muddled thru….

His numbers haven’t moved much…..

And the Russian questions still define his time in office….They won’t be put to bed until Robert Mueller hands down his call…..


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I’m betting he doesn’t last for the whole four years….

We’ll see….

Trump’s election reflected many voters’ exasperation with the status quo and sense of permanent estrangement from some gilded clique of winners. He was their pyrrhic retort. How much hotter will their anger burn when they realize they got played?

I’m more likely to win a season of “The Bachelorette” than he is to build that incessantly promised wall. His professed disdain for Wall Street was a campaign-season pose, abandoned the minute he started assembling his administration. Health care that’s better, cheaper and more universal? Oh, please.

It’s possible that Trump’s fans will never blame him, because of one of his most self-serving and corrosive feats: the stirring of partisanship and distrust of institutions into the conviction that there’s no such thing as objective truth. There are only rival claims. There are always “alternative facts.” Charges of mere bias are the antiquated weapons of yesteryear; “fake news” is the new nullifier, and it’s a phrase so dear to him that his unprincipled acolytes are building on it. Last week a Trump adviser, Sebastian Gorka, lashed out at the “fake news industrial complex.” Trump reportedly swooned.

What happens to a democracy whose citizens not only lose common ground but also take a match to the idea of a common reality? Thanks in part to Trump, we may find out. He doesn’t care about civility or basic decency, and even if he did, he lacks the discipline to yoke his actions to any ideals. The Democratic strategist Doug Sosnik expressed it perfectly, telling me, “His presidency is what happens when you have road rage in the Oval Office.”….



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101 thoughts on “Donald Trump has been President for Six Months…Open Thread for 7/16/17….”

  1. The closest analogy I can think of is the infamous Nixon Saturday Night Massacre in 1973.

    After then AG Elliot Richardson refused to fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox atNixons Order.He resigned.Then Deputy AG William Ruckelshaus became de facto Acting AG.He also refused to fire Cox and quit.Solicitor General Robert Bork was apparently next in line to become Acting AG.Although he contemplated resigning in solidarity with his two superiors he carried out the firing.Bork later said that while he disagreed with Nixons firing Cox he believed he had the right to do so and it was his duty to carry out the presidents directive.

    How that would work nowadays,I’m not sure but I would think the Acting AG ,presumably the now Deputy AG would have the same power as the AG.

  2. Actually had Sessions refused to recuse himself he would have opened himself up to an ethics complaint that could have impacted his license to practice law which makes Trumps already childish behavior look even more ridiculous.

  3. Right now, Rosenstein has the power to fire Mueller, and he has said he will not do it without cause. Trump has been going after Rosenstein too, saying he must be a Democrat, putting aside the fact that Trump nominated him for the job.

    So, he would have to fire Rosenstein and hope that the person under him (Rachel something) would fire Mueller.

    But if somebody were to become the Attorney General, and not recuse, they would obviously outrank Rosenstein.

    He probably thinks that he will be applauded by Democrats for forcing Sessions out, so he is clearly trying to go that route first. The Intelligence leaks about Sessions and the Russians from last week probably came right from the White House.

  4. Giuliani breaking with Trump over Sessions reminds me that last week Chris Christie said that Donald Trump Jr’s meeting with the Russian lawyer was inappropriate and possibly illegal.

    (Kushner threw his brother in law under the bus in his testimony today as well)

    I think it can be surmised that there is no love lost between Christie and the Trump children, Jared included. He is probably correct that they alone were responsible for his not getting the VP nod and probably for not getting any Administration position. Jared holds a grudge against Christie for prosecuting his father years back.

  5. I said a couple of days ago….
    Trump IS STUCK….
    If he could fire Sessions and get away with it?
    Sessions would be HISTORY….
    I point this out….
    Slowly and mostly quietly ?
    Republicans ARE covering Mueller’s back
    Not Trump’s
    The investigation WILL GO ON…
    At this point Trump would be digging HIMSELF DEEPER if he tries to fire Mueller,..
    Trump KNOWS this…..
    And Rudy is smart…
    Why NOT back Mueller if he’s doing his job
    Trump looks increasingly like a guy out on limb
    With helping hand standing back to see if and when the branch might break…
    Trump had demonstrated he really has NO friends
    The GOPer’s get it….
    This is like a bull shit civil case…
    This serious shit…..

  6. Trump could ALWAYS go deep enough to get someone to fire Mueller and start a shit storm….
    Probably the same for Sessions…

  7. Right now, it seems obvious that he is still actively exploring options to try to get rid of Mueller. He thinks he can ultimately survive whatever it is he has to do. After being surprised at the backlash he got from firing Comey, he is more reluctant to outright fire Rosenstein or Sessions, but if he sees no other option, he may very well do so.

    Again though, the way he turned on Sessions so publicly should be a warning to every single GOP Member of Congress whom he wants to carry water for and everyone in his Administration. He can’t fire Pence, but the VP should absolutely realize that Trump would turn on him in a second if he had to.

    I wonder how many votes there would be in the Cabinet for the 25th Amendment if it were truly a secret ballot. Pence would have to go along with it too though.

  8. Apparently in blasting Obamacare today,Trump said it had been a disaster for the past seventeen years.

    Seventeen years ago,Bill Clinton was President and no one had ever heard of Barack Obama.

  9. And people in his core support group Have drank the kool aid and tend to believe just about ANYTHING he says, no matter how dumb or incorrect it might be…

  10. He might have just misspoken about the 17 years (meaning 7) just like Terry McAuliffe recently misspoke when he said 93 millions Americans a day are killed by gun violence.

    See if he repeats 17 years and maybe it was intentional.

  11. I presume he did misspeak.

    Even I don’t think he’s that damn dumb.

    I just thought it was funny.

    Of course he isn’t going to repeat it.Its all over the wires .

  12. Breaking,,..
    It is being reported that somehow Republicans will bring John McCain to Washington DC tomorrow , cancer and all, to work…..
    It is THAT bad for them on the healthcare bill ….

  13. Zreebs very clearly said he was taking an extended break because of what he regarded as your inaccurate and half truth reporting of Bernie Sanders.

    Indeed, it was noticeable that the more he complained ,the more you attacked Sanders and ,as usual, with some over the top stuff that was sure to anger him.

    Interestingly,since Zreebs left ,there has hardly been aof Sanders in any of your posts,

  14. As I always say?

    It’s ‘your’ keyboard….

    I’m me….

    It’s been seven years here and I’m gonna keep on being me…

  15. Sanctions bill passed House 419-3 with three dissents, all Republican:

    Justin Amash (Mich.), John Duncan Jr. (Tenn.) and Thomas Massie (Ky)

    The two dissenters in the Senate (98-2) were

    Bernie Sanders (Ind-Vt) and Rand Paul (R-Ky)

  16. A new Economist/YouGov poll finds that Republicans favor having courts “shut down media outlets” for “biased or inaccurate” stories by a 45% to 20% margin, with 35% unsure.

    Of course Trump is a Republican.

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