Military Power has got this country into problems…Open Thread for April 13, 2017

I just saw something that I think is crazy and dangerous….

There are reports that the Trump Admin is ‘leaking’ threats to attack North Korea attempts to put together a nuclear ballistic missile test…

Yes …ATTACK , like the Israeli’s did back in the day in the Middle East…

I hope this isn’t a game of chicken…

North Korea is country that has a huge military…

Soeul, The main city in South Korea is only 30 miles from the DMZ, which has tens’s of thousands of US and South Korean soldiers….

A strong push by more than 100,000 communist troops is gonna be a problem…

Trump and the General’s have surely been emboldened by their Syrian and Afghanistan military actions…

But neither country is anywhere close to the ability of the North Korean military which is thought to have simple nuclear weapons and military in the millions…

I hope cooler heads prevail….

America does NOT need to go back to World War II fighting two military actions on both sides of the planet…

In a statement Thursday, North Korea issued a warning to the U.S. — should it take action — of a “merciless retaliatory strike.”

“By relentlessly bringing in a number of strategic nuclear assets to the Korean peninsula, the US is gravely threatening the peace and safety and driving the situation to the brink of a nuclear war,” North Korea’s statement said.

South Korea foreign minister Yun Byung said U.S. officials have “repeatedly reaffirmed that” the U.S. “will closely discuss with South Korea its North Korea-related measures.”

“In fact, the U.S. is working to reassure us that it will not, just in case that we might hold such concerns.”

President Trump on Thursday tweeted that he has “great confidence that China will properly deal with North Korea.”

“If they are unable to do so, the U.S., with its allies, will! USA,” the president tweeted….


The NY Times has a detailed look at the on the ground action by the North Korea’s that has alarmed American Intelligence and military people...Here…

81 thoughts on “Military Power has got this country into problems…Open Thread for April 13, 2017”

  1. I just read James’s initial comments before the article. See his third from the bottom sentence. Are you suggesting that North Korea’s military has more ability than the American military?

    1. North Korea has anywhere from 1 million to 5 million people in military uniforms depending on who check with….

      They HAVE several low yield nuclear device’s…

      They have a concentration of troops on the North/South Korea border called the Demailitarized zone…

      America has 25,000 troops in South Korea…
      South Korea has about 600,000 troops..
      Not all of them are actually combat troops…

      MY feeling is like the Borg?
      If the the North Korea’s want to overrun South Korea in retaliation against an American preemptive strike on their nuclear assets?

      South Korea’s major city Seoul, 30 miles form the border is GONE….

      With thousands of American and Korea troops ran over in valaint efforts to ‘hold the fort’?
      China , Japan and EVERYBODY else in the South China Sea is at risk…
      And China is gonna get MILLIONS of North Korea’s marching over their borfer just like what the Bush’s caused in the Middle East…

      So Z?

      It doesn’t much matter whose balls are bigger….

      IF the leader of North Korea decides he wants to go for broke?
      We have ANOTHER World War in the Pacific…
      Led by generals with a Commander-in-Chief who has NOT Idea WTF he’s doing….

      It is NO coincidence that Trump didn’t have any actual mass US military assets sitting off of the North Korea border…
      The general’s where caught flat footed by Trump usual bull shit throw down…

      If you check?
      You’ll read that the South Korea’s, China , Japan and a LOT of other countries put in call’s to Trump and his aides (And North Korea) to ‘cool it’….

      Nobody need’s this shit…The size of the American military didn’t work in Viet Nam and it ain’t working in the Middle East…KNOW YOUR History

  2. Macron and LePen advance to the runoff in France.

    I was hoping it would be Macron and Fillon to advance, and I do not really know which I would have preferred among them, but certainly in this runoff, I will side with Barack Obama and hope for a Macron victory over Trump’s choice LePen. I am glad that Melanchon, the far left-candidate did not advance against LePen.

    Since Keith believes that anybody who opposes or even questions in anyway the efforts of a woman to be the leader of their country automatically makes them sexist, he will apparently be hoping for LePen. That’s unfortunate.

    1. Trump’s disapproval climbs again in RCP average….

      Military action ‘bump’ in the polls fading….

        1. Barack Obama is currently speaking in Chicago in his first public speaking engagement….
          I will be doing a post on his return to spotlight…
          His appearance will be sold as the first REAL counter by Democrats against the Trump and GOP….

              1. Follow-Up on my earlier answer to Z….

                ….In his phone call with Trump, China’s Xi called for restraint from both Washington and Pyongyang, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement, but he also stressed that China “resolutely opposes activities that violate U.N. Security Council resolutions” and is willing to work with the United States and other countries to keep the peace.

                Japan’s Abe had a 30-minute call with Trump to discuss North Korea, whose actions he called an “extremely serious threat” to international society and to his country….

                More @

              2. I hear there is some info out there that Rachel Maddow is pulling HIGHER rating numbers than Fox????

                Be AFRAID….
                VERY AFRAID!

    1. Yea DSD…..
      If you vote for a guy who says he’s got your back , but turns on ya?
      You shouldn’t pull your support for him,eh?

      1. Not that it matters?

        But I suppose Trump is never gonna get over the throwdown Obama gave him at the WH Corr Dinner a few years ago?


        Chris Cillizza‏ @CillizzaCNN
        Chris Cillizza Retweeted Donald J. Trump
        This is, purposely, scheduled on the night of the White House Correspondents Dinner

        Donald J. Trump‏
        Next Saturday night I will be holding a BIG rally in Pennsylvania. Look forward to it!

  3. Trump spoke in the past about what a good guy Blago was and how he got a “raw deal”, etc. This was during the time he was firing him on “Celebrity Apprentice.”

    Trump could get him out of prison now for real if he wanted to.

      1. (GOP led Congress could hurt coal miners BIG Time)


        Van Jones‏

        Van Jones Retweeted #LoveArmy
        20,000 retired coal miners will lose their health care next week if Congress doesn’t act. This is a matter of right & wrong, life & death.

          1. Meanwhile?
            The Donald has NOT been back to his 5th Ave Tower since he got his new job….
            His wife lived there with his youngest kid.,.
            Something ain’t right.,..
            But it isn’t my business….

              1. Paul Ryan doing Trump….

                Tells fellow GOP lawmakers he’s close to having a Obamacare repeal bill language that can pass while he says he doesn’t want a government shutdown?

                The TWO do NOT fit….

  4. While a crook like Blago languishes in jail,a thief who stole over 25 million dollars in a phony “university” scheme serves as President of the United States with the support of those who claim to believe in something called,

    “Traditional values.”

    Who knew common,ordinary theft was a “value?”

  5. Former U.S. Ambassadors to the Dominion of New Zealand (from the Embassy itself):

    Besides Carol Moseley Braun, I recognise only a few names, such as Patrick Hurley (the new embassy was important then because NZ was in the Pacific Theatre of Operations) and Josiah Beeman (the name of an SF Supervisor, although I don’t know if it’s the same person).

  6. Perhaps he can run for the Senate from there Scott? New Zealand seems to be where loser Senators go, Carol Braun was Ambassador for a few years too.

    Scott will be perfect there, he can run around with his shirt off all day. (Something Carol never did I trust).

  7. No significant Tory of either sex – not even the Iron Lady herself – has ever been foolhardy enough to suggest that the National Health Service * be dismantled and that Britain return to the Halcyon days before 1948.

    (Many Tories, including I think Mrs Thatcher in her day, declare that they’re on the National Health, rather than a private alternative such as the British United Provident Association, and show their card as an example of their sympathy with the life of ordinary Britons.)

    That’s one huge difference between British (ot for that matter Canadian) Tories and U.S. Republicans even more terrified by the White House, their donors and their most hard-core supporters than by the political constituencies they represent.

    * Suggested and in many ways outlined in 1944 by an all-party wartime commission chaired by the Liberal Party’s expert Sir William (later Lord) Beveridge, but planned and executed by flaming Welsh leftist firebrand and miners’ advocate Aneurin (Nye) Bevan (Labour, Ebbw Vale) as Minister of Health, assisted by such left-wing junior ministers such as Michael Foot.

    The Canadian equivalent of the NHS, based on individual provincial plans, originated in Saskatchewan when it was governed by the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation (CCF), the agrarian parent (together with the Canadian Labour Council) of the current New Democratic Party (NDP).

        1. Media outlets must have gotten a briefing……
          They ran earlier today with the story that the Administration was so hard up for a healthcare win that made compromises with the Freedom Caucus…
          By this afternoon the caucus was saying no good and the moderates
          Were definitely not interested….
          So 100 days will come and with only executive orders and agencies waiting for staff….

          1. Trump WANTS a healthcare bill and CR with no ‘give backs”?
            The guys tripping!
            When asked about details?
            He couldn’t provide any

            1. So much for this guy getting over by helping Trump beat Clinton with ‘leaks’?


              Jim Sciutto‏ @jimsciutto
              BREAKING: US authorities have prepared charges to seek the arrest of @WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, US officials tell CNN

              1. …twitter…

                Tim Farley Retweeted
                George Bush‏@GeorgeHWBush
                Big morale boost from a high level delegation. No father has ever been more blessed, or prouder.

    1. Just something to put out there on healthcare around the world…….

      I have been asked from time to time….. Why do people come to American for medical treatment?

  8. Only if you promise to obsess every time she wears a pantsuit. And this might be a good time for a lecture on how the Tories are just like the Republicans.

  9. I am sure Keith will take the chance to tell us that anybody who does not support (and without any equivocation or possible lack of enthusiasm at that) the right of Theresa May to be the leader of her country is sexist.

  10. Left one small party (the once-dominant and ruling Ulster Unionists) out of that roll call:

    The House divided:
    Ayes: 522
    Noes: 13

    Question accordingly agreed to.

    325 – 0 = Conservative (Tories)
    174 – 9 = Labour

    8 – 0 = Liberal Democrat
    8 – 0 = Democratic Unionist (N. Ireland)
    1 – 3 = Independent
    3 – 0 = Plaid Cymru (Welsh Nationalist)
    2 – 0 = Ulster Unionist Party
    1 – 0 = Green
    0 – 1 = SDLP (Social Democratic & Labour Party – N. Ireland nationalists)

    Scottish National Party members not recorded as entering either the Aye or the No lobby.

  11. A sample of the parliamentary back-and-forth in today’s House of Commons debate about Conservative Prime Minister Theresa May’s motion to over-ride the Fixed Term Parliament Act by a two-thirds vote (easily achieved today) and call an early General Election on 8 June 2017.

    I didn’t see the video (available from several sources) but the written transcript is lively enough.

    Parliamentary premiers and opposition leaders in the U.K. (including the Northern Irish, Welsh, Scottish and Greater London assemblies), Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Westminster-model countries are well-used to this kind of exchange, but it’s nearly impossible for me to envisage the present President of the United States being able to hold his own there for even as much as one continuous hour (60 whole minutes).

    Note that, unlike the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, a Speaker of the House of Commons, no matter his or her previous political affiliation or opinions, is expected to forego any party label and usually runs for re-election in his or her own constituency as an independent without opposition from any of the established political parties.

    The Speaker (as can be seen from the title) is expected to act in the interest of the whole House and of each and every member.


    Sir Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con)

    In the time-honoured fashion, my right hon. Friend has called this election in what she considers, and I consider, to be the national interest at this moment. It would be a brave man or woman who voted against this motion. The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 is therefore seen to be an emperor without clothes—it serves no purpose, and many of us have questioned it for many years. Will the first line of our manifesto be to scrap it?

    The Prime Minister

    My hon. Friend tries to tempt me down that road. What is clear is that the Fixed-term Parliaments Act gives us an opportunity, notwithstanding the fixed-term element of it, to have elections at another time, but it is of course for this House to vote for such an election. Like him, I think it is very clear that every Member of this House should be voting for this election.

    Several hon. Members rose—

    The Prime Minister

    I will take one more intervention and then return to my speech.

    Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme) (Lab)

    The Prime Minister pledged time and again not to call an early election. In her Easter message, she talked greatly of her Christian values, so will she explain why she has such a loose and complicated relationship with telling the truth?

    The Prime Minister rose—

    Mr Speaker

    Order. The Prime Minister is perfectly well able to fend for herself, but what the hon. Gentleman has said is a breach of order and I must ask him to withdraw it. He is versatile in the use of language—he used to pen articles for newspapers; he is a journalist—so withdraw, man, and use some other formulation if you must. At the very least, however, withdraw it.

    Paul Farrelly

    I am very happy to withdraw and reformulate what I said. Why does the Prime Minister have such a complicated and loose relationship with giving the country a clear indication of her intentions?

    The Prime Minister

    I say to the hon. Gentleman that yesterday I gave the country a very clear indication of my intentions. If he has a little patience, he will hear the reasons why I did that.

    As I was saying, the Government have delivered on the priorities that I set out last year. Despite predictions of immediate financial and economic danger, since the referendum we have seen consumer confidence remain high, record numbers of jobs and economic growth that has exceeded all expectations. At the same time, we have delivered on the mandate we were handed by the referendum result by triggering article 50 before the end of March, as we pledged to do. As a result, Britain is leaving the EU and there can be no turning back.

    Stewart Malcolm McDonald (Glasgow South) (SNP)

    Does it not take some brass neck to call a general election when you are facing allegations of buying the last one?

    The Prime Minister

    That intervention was not worthy of the hon. Gentleman….

    [Apparently the Scottish Nationalists, who are demanding a fresh independence referendum in light of Brexit against which most Scots voted last June, did not vote either way on the motion.]

  12. Today’s Parliamentary vote on calling an early General Election on 8 June 2017

    (from Hansard on line, the British equivalent of The Congressional Record)

    Division 196
    19 April 2017

    The House divided:
    Ayes: 522
    Noes: 13

    Question accordingly agreed to.

    325 – 0 = Conservative (Tories)
    174 – 9 = Labour

    8 – 0 = Liberal Democrat
    8 – 0 = Democratic Unionist (N. Ireland)
    1 – 3 = Independent
    3 – 0 = Plaid Cymru (Welsh Nationalist)
    1 – 0 = Green
    0 – 1 = SDLP (Social Democratic & Labour Party – N. Ireland nationalists)

  13. Theresa May wins Commons backing for 8 June general election

    Anushka Asthana, The Guardian (U.K.)

    Theresa May has won the overwhelming backing of MPs for her decision to hold a general election on 8 June, saying it would secure “stability and certainty” as Britain prepares to enter Brexit talks.

    MPs backed the government motion to hold a general election, with 522 voting in favour and 13 against, a majority of 509. It gives the prime minister the two-thirds majority she needed to overturn the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act, passed by the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition in 2011, which would otherwise have meant no general election could be held until 2020.

    May had repeatedly said she had no plans to hold an early general election before surprising Westminster, including many of her own colleagues, by announcing the 8 June poll on Tuesday.

    Parliament will be dissolved on 2 May and the formal election campaign will begin.

    1. I saw the U.K. move
      Vote is to strengthen her grip on her government going into Brexit negotiations?

        1. Trump’s polling numbers continue to get slowly get better on his military card playing around the planet….

  14. The last four lines I totally agree…if she had had that personality…that 100K wouldn’t have happened…

    1. Bdog?
      You check my post today about the racial factor Trump used against Clinton?
      May I remind you that Hillary BEAT Trump by almost THREE MILLION VOTES?
      Yes she lost….
      But I KEEP bringing up the point she won the popular vote and lost the election by less than 100,000 votes allocated to the electoral college…

      1. I disagree on the narrative that Trump won big….
        He did not…
        The consequences ARE big….
        But the win itself was narrow
        Hence the low approval numbers for Trump and Republicans in general…
        And difficulty in them moving ahead
        No Hillary Clinton never like campaigning
        Does not have the inate feel for politics that her husband, Obama or even George Bush or Trump has….
        And it has cost her and America…

  15. James and Keith,

    Thanks for your concern.

    I am physically fine.My absence relates to the fact that I find myself less inclined to pontificate on matters of the day.Ill probably emerge soon,likely on a less frequent basis than in the past however.

    1. Glad that you are Ok Jack….

      I certainly understand were you are coming from…

      Sometimes it IS DIFFICULT keeping my head in the countries political world….

      It IS uninspiring…

      I am trying to NOT feature Trump in every post like the big outfits are doing…

      It is already tired….

  16. Daniel that Trailer didn’t reveal too much…not very excited about it…Doubt Luke goes bad…he is just going Rogue (or dead)…

  17. Very Machiavellian…Blow some shit up and show force to distract from all the problems you got…

    But I do agree that bombs on Syrian Government forces needed to happen, just real convenient for the Trump Admin…

    1. Of interest to Keith and maybe others….

      I think this goes NOWHERE….

      House Democrats want Kushner’s security clearance suspended

      A handful of House Democrats are calling on federal authorities to suspend Jared Kushner’s security clearance amid a wide-ranging probe into Trump associates’ contacts with Russian officials.

      President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and adviser failed to disclose numerous foreign contacts when he applied for top secret clearance, including at least two meetings with high-profile Russians during Trump’s transition to the White House, according to a New York Times report cited by the lawmakers. It is, they noted, a felony to intentionally conceal such meetings on a national security form….

      More @

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