Doing time working for Amazon…

From someone who ran a business myself with my wife…..

The recent NY Time piece on Amazon the giant retailer is disturbing….

A compnay that prides itself on driving it’s employes to cry under intesnse pressure…?

A company that boasts of annual wholesale firings….?

A company that provides NO creature comforts for its’s staff…?

A company that encourages employes to ‘tell’ on its fellow employees , instead of a non confrentational system?

To be frank…

I don’t use Amazon’s services….

And after reading the NY Times piece?

I don’t plan on using them 

They are told to forget the “poor habits” they learned at previous jobs, one employee recalled. When they “hit the wall” from the unrelenting pace, there is only one solution: “Climb the wall,” others reported. To be the best Amazonians they can be, they should be guided by the leadership principles, 14 rules inscribed on handy laminated cards. When quizzed days later, those with perfect scores earn a virtual award proclaiming, “I’m Peculiar” — the company’s proud phrase for overturning workplace conventions.

At Amazon, workers are encouraged to tear apart one another’s ideas in meetings, toil long and late (emails arrive past midnight, followed by text messages asking why they were not answered), and held to standards that the company boasts are “unreasonably high.” The internal phone directory instructs colleagues on how to send secret feedback to one another’s bosses. Employees say it is frequently used to sabotage others. (The tool offers sample texts, including this: “I felt concerned about his inflexibility and openly complaining about minor tasks.”)

Many of the newcomers filing in on Mondays may not be there in a few years. The company’s winners dream up innovations that they roll out to a quarter-billion customers and accrue small fortunes in soaring stock. Losers leave or are fired in annual cullings of the staff — “purposeful Darwinism,” one former Amazon human resources director said. Some workers who suffered from cancer, miscarriages and other personal crises said they had been evaluated unfairly or edged out rather than given time to recover.

Even as the company tests delivery by drone and ways to restock toilet paper at the push of a bathroom button, it is conducting a little-known experiment in how far it can push white-collar workers, redrawing the boundaries of what is acceptable. The company, founded and still run by Jeff Bezos, rejects many of the popular management bromides that other corporations at least pay lip service to and has instead designed what many workers call an intricate machine propelling them to achieve Mr. Bezos’ ever-expanding ambitions.

“This is a company that strives to do really big, innovative, groundbreaking things, and those things aren’t easy,” said Susan Harker, Amazon’s top recruiter. “When you’re shooting for the moon, the nature of the work is really challenging. For some people it doesn’t work.”

“Nearly every person I worked with, I saw cry at their desk.”
Bo Olson, worked in books marketing


16 thoughts on “Doing time working for Amazon…”

  1. First of all, few employees are unionized. As a result, layoffs are more common. The good news is that without unions, hiring is also more common. Those who are unionized are often in a field without competitors (teachers, Amtrack, state workers, etc). Employees in low-wage, but highly competitive fields (restaurant workers, clothing manufacturers) essentially cannot become unionized because if they did, the company would go under – as history shows.

    So why should low wage workers pay more for a product or pay more in taxes to support higher wage workers? It is a redistriction from the poor to the middle class? That is not only poor economics, but the redistribution is in the wrong direction.

    I believe in a much more progressive income tax than we currently have as the solution for unfair wages.

  2. If unions shrink, Zreebs, then who in Heaven’s name will protect working girl (or guy)?

    It’s certainly no longer (despite George F. Baer’s assurance of a century ago) the conscience of the corporation, its owners or its directors; they have none.

    The rights of the laboring man will be protected, and cared for, not by the labor agitator but by the Christian men to whom God has given control of the property in this country, and upon the successful management of which so much depends.

    George Baer, letter, July 17, 1902

    Labor unions, like corporations, government and charitable institutions, are very imperfect instruments, but do you have an alternative? Or should the free labor market allow corporations to use technology and data-crunching to constantly increase the exploitation of workers?

  3. DSD, I don’t fully understand your question. What problem are you talking about? I see the shrinkage of unions to be a good thing.

  4. Oops, my last message must have set off the Filter (and fallen down the Memory Hole) by mentioning an Unperson’s name.

    I said that while I know that Zreebs (and certain other past and present Republican posters) will disagree with me about labor unions, I’d like to know how else he (they) would answer this problem, if it is one.

  5. There’s a cure for this that the GOP, from their multi-billionaire funders to their Tea Party base, will fight like mad, and have been fighting for the last three decades (or last 150 years):

    it’s called unionization.

    (Among Joe Hill’s last reported words before he faced a Utah firing-squad were “don’t mourn for me; organize!)

    But only with Democrats running Congress, the White House and more of state government (right-to-work had been shrinking or stalled for decades until the last one) will there be even a possibility of reviving a quarterway-effective labor movement in private mass-production and mass-distribution industries and in multinational corporations’ North American operations.

    Otherwise the NLRB will be deliberately tied up in knots forever, and private-sector unionization will shrink even smaller than its current Gilded Age/Roaring Twenties single digits.

    (It would also help if the SEIU weren’t fighting AFSCME and hadn’t help break the AFL-CIO in two; but then the massive organizing drive of the 1930’s happened after the CIO’s bitter split from the A.F. of L. but with the benign acquiescence of the New Deal White House & Congress. [Abbreviations cheerfully explained to any don’t know them already.] )

  6. What”point?”

    American businesses are NOT “over regulated.”

    That’s a cheap Republcan talking point.

    I don’t think most Democrats subscribe to that old canard.

    If you do?

    Then maybe you ought to be supporting people who play that “game.”

  7. Yeh I knew I could smoke you out.

    What “micromanage?”

    That’s some good Republican talk from you James and about what I expected.

    Most American businesses screw over their employees And consumers.Theyre making Billions and always yakking about being “over regulated “,supported by the Republicans and apparently,YOU.

    No surprise I might add.

  8. Points out why American businesses need ever MORE regulation.

    Sic em Liz Warren.

    (Watch James change his tune if that happens!)

    1. Government micromanage Business?
      THIS GOVERNMENT can’t get out it’s OWN WAY on a LOT of things (Trump)
      And you want it to go into weeds with more businesses?
      On Amazon?
      If you want to work for a company that is gonna treat ya like shit?
      Go work there
      Amazon should be following the rules
      But this IS America
      They ARE about making money

  9. He, he….

    Amazon just favored my tweet of this post….

    Silly computer?

    Or a la’ Trump….

    Good or Bad attention is STILL attention?

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