Open Thread for May 15, 2015…..

I’m fresh out of a theme for this thread…..

Carry On…..

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  1. It appears Congressman Frank Guinta (R-NH) has found himself in a lot of trouble with the Federal Election folks. He seems to have forgotten it was money from his parents, not his savings, that financed his last campaign — oops. He has been fined 15K and the House Ethics Committee should be up next. Next stop, resignation. At least he didn’t threaten to tear a reporter in two.

    Scott Brown has essentially announced his intention to seek Guinta’s seat by tweeting a picture of himself with his shirt off :) But seriously, Brown just moved into Guinta’s district (wonder if he had advance knowledge of the Congressman’s illegal activities)? Hope springs eternal for Senator Zero (he’ll find that office if it kills him).

  2. I found Corey’s 11:24 particularly amusing for a couple of reasons:

    1) Corey has said he supports the Free Trade agreement, yet provides an article that would appear to undermine it. One might think that this would give Corey an opportunity to praise Obama. I can only conclude that Corey posted it because it appears to undermine Obama. And for Corey, weakening the president is more important than helping his side get legislation that it wants passed.

    2) Elizabeth Warren (other than the title) never said she “Can’t trust Obama”. As someone who works in the insurance industry, I can say with certainty that Warren’s main point that regulatory enforcement does not always follow the legislation is completely fair. But this has nothing to do with trust for Obama. Ultimately, Obama won’t be the regulator, and some of the regulators for this legislation probably won’t even be American. So her comments are fair. Personally, I would argue that the benefits of free trade still overpower the disadvantages. And on that, I disagree with Warren, but that likewise doesn’t mean that I don’t trust her.

    It is obvious to me that Warren was not attacking Obama in any way – either in what she said or even in what she thought. I don’t agree with anyone on every issue. That doesn’t mean that I don’t trust anyone.

    If Warren ever says “I don’t trust Obama”, then it will be news, but that won’t happen, and Corey knows it. The media is just trying to find personal animosity where none exists.

  3. I am for free trade and I believe Obama cannot be trusted. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    But I was just posting the article. I was not intending to offer any comment on it there. Maybe jamesb will want to post it on his front page as part of his simmering personal vendetta against Elizabeth Warren.

  4. It’s not just about having the younger nominee.

    If the GOP nominates Ted Cruz at 45 he’d be the youngest major party nominee since JFK.

    But his ideas are right out of the middle ages and the idea that this Joseph McCarthy wanna be would draw a youth vote just because he was born in the 70s is laughable.

  5. Rubio is slightly younger than Cruz.

    The problem would exist for Hillary though, because it just seems a bit convoluted how she was rejected in favor of Obama eight years ago for being too much of “the past”, in part because she was 14 years older than him, and now, eight years later, Democrats think that it can all be swept aside and she will come across as “fresh” and “new.”

  6. Younger ideas? Based on what?

    I can certainly say that the Constitution has some pretty “old” ideas in it and that should be what our candidates stand for.

    Hillary has a long way to go towards proving that she would be able to drive up a high turnout of young voters for her in a general election or even primary at this point. Her campaign is not off to a great start in general.

  7. Young Republican’s are more flexible then their parents on immigration and gay issue’s….And certainly on contraception Corey….

    I’m gonna guess that some of those young Republican women are gonna secretly vote for the first Woman President also…

    Oh, they ARE Republicans…
    But they probably have issue with the parties platform policies…

  8. Rubio’s position on Cuban relations certainly isn’t shared by most younger Cuban Americans. And while he jokes that Hillary’s economic proposals are akin to “partying like it’s 1999” his ideas are the same old trickle down stuff from the 80s, like all Republicans.

  9. People who define themselves as “Young Republicans” will be highly unlikely to vote for Hillary or any Democrat nominee.

    I don’t understand the point you are trying to make about immigration. And I certainly do not understand what “contraception” has to do with any of this. We discussed this a bit last week, and then after I left, you made a comment which indicated that you genuinely do not understand the difference between contraception and abortion.

    In regards to abortion though, there have been numerous studies over the past several years that show that younger people are becoming increasingly Pro-Life.

    You would have been better off saying that young voters are more supportive of drug legalization and that might make them gravitate towards Democrats.

  10. “Young Cuban” voters of course make up an extremely small share of young voters as a whole, but I will assure you that if Marco Rubio is somehow the GOP nominee, he is going to receive an overwhelming majority of Cuban-American votes, especially in Florida, and including young people, even those who may oppose the embargo.

    As most know, I tend to want the GOP to nominate a Governor, but certainly feel that Rubio is a major contender for the nominee. If he does wind up facing off against Hillary, the age difference and the stylistic differences between them would be a significant curveball for Democrats to try to finesse and I think they already realize that.

  11. Is it not the GOP platform policy that any form of birth control is no good?

    Would that include contraception?..

  12. The GOP Platform says nothing about birth control.

    Is that something you really were under the impression of? If so, I find that shocking, even for you.

  13. Ah, men, especially men who have never come close to making a baby, discussing contraception. Stick to baseball.

  14. I’m trying to not pile on in a personal way, but how could you make that mistake?

    Do you think you might be mixing up “abortion” with “birth control” or the Republican Party Platform with the Catholic Church?

    I am kind of at a loss on this and how to respond.

  15. Who said Barack Obama is a boy?

    Keith was just paraphrasing some people not happy with our first mixed race President…

    I just reacted to that…

    Keith made good point….

  16. Keith was just paraphrasing comments some make about the country’s first mixed race President….Yes
    He makes a fair point…
    I just reacted to the slight..

  17. Who else has made those comments besides him? Certainly nobody here. It’s his issues, but don’t pass the buck on his behalf.

  18. And nobody else does or ever will refer to Obama as “America’s First Mixed Race President.” There is nothing controversial about accurately referring to him as the first black or first African-American President. Yes, his mother was white, but based on his skin color, in the view of almost everyone in the world, including those with unjust prejudice, he is seen as black.

  19. He IS of mixed race literally….
    Many refer to him as Black or Afro-American
    But mixed keeps his mother in the picture
    You of course may use any of the aforementioned terms…

  20. Corey May 18, 2015 at 4:32 pm
    Who else has made those comments besides him? Certainly nobody here. It’s his issues, but don’t pass the buck on his behalf……

    Who else made those comments? You forget Corey, you did. The magic negro, calling a spade a spade, your support of Romney’s racist campaign. So, yes, you did Corey. My comments were all about my ongoing sarcasm in regard to a whole class of Americans who simply refuse to accept a “black boy” as President. And, that whole class of folks are all Republicans.

  21. The Washington Post Fact Checker finds Sen. Marco Rubio’s (R-FL) claim that former President George W. Bush said himself that he would not have invaded Iraq is “simply false.”

    “We can find no evidence to justify Rubio’s claim that former president Bush has said that he would not have invaded Iraq if he had known no weapons of mass destruction would have been found. Rather, he and most of his top aides have insisted that the invasion was still justified despite the failure to find such weapons… The former president has never suggested he would not have invaded Iraq if he had known there were no weapons of mass destruction; instead, as recently as 2014, he has insisted his decision to invade was correct.”

  22. Breaking…

    The State Department will need until January 2016 to review Hillary Clinton emails…

    Maybe?

  23. “Over the weekend, less than a month after the Supreme Court heard arguments on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage bans, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg presided over the wedding of Shakespeare Theatre artistic director Michael Kahn and interior designer Charles Mitchem. According to New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, a guest at the wedding, Ginsburg delivered her portion, including saying she was officiating by the power vested in her by the United States Constitution, ‘with a sly look and special emphasis on the word Constitution,;” MSNBC reports.

    Wrote Dowd: “No one was sure if she was emphasizing her own beliefs or giving a hint to the outcome of the case the Supreme Court is considering whether to decide if same-sex marriage is constitutional.”

  24. Interesting post Keith – It is hard for me to understand how Ginsberg and Scalia could be friends when off the bench. One would think, for example, that these comments would make Scalia’s blood boil. I wonder if these two go to the opera together – not because the are friends, but because they have to maintain that personal contact in order to stand one another in the courtroom?

    Speaking of myself, there are only a handful of Republicans that I genuinely consider my friend. Usually, I try to avoid talking politics with these people. When that doesn’t work, I tend to be exceedingly careful in how I communicate. But as someone who can be rather passionate in his beliefs, I find that this can feel like work at times.

    While there are benefits of course to being friends with someone whom has significantly different political beliefs than you, I sometimes can walk away feeling a bit dishonest or ungenuine – not because of what I said, but because of what I didn’t say. I don’t regret being very selective in what I say and how i say it partially because I know that my conservative friends must feel the same awkwardness at times as I do. I could tell that at least some of them watch their words carefully when they communicate with me, and I bet they feel ungenuine or dishonest at times too. For example, my three sisters while liberal on 90% of issues are also pro-life. They know I am pro-choice, but they are not going to say to me “I find your support of murder to be reprehensible” – even though I know they must think it.

  25. ….twitter….

    Luke Russert ‏@LukeRussert
    Walker was asked about his lack of a college degree by one #GOP member, told the Conf he was offered a job, wanted one badly so took it

    Luke Russert ‏@LukeRussert
    Spoke to a few members, Scott Walker’s address to House #GOP attended by over a hundred went across quite well

  26. ….twitter….

    Luke Russert ‏@LukeRussert
    Walker also impressed members on his knowledge of foreign policy. Went to great lengths to explain importance of South China sea

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