This is for those of you actually listening to Mitt Romney these days and NOT to the Media drubbing his campaign…..
Thank you Chris Cillizza for this piece…..
This Dog never bit at the Romney in a Conservative line….
Never…..
Cillizza argues for Mitt to come hime to who he REALLY is…..
Mitt the Moderate……(the ex-Governor of Blue Massachusetts)
This Dog thinks it’s too late….
He SHOULD HAVE gone back to the Middle a LONG time ago….
In a speech Wednesday night at the University of Miami, Moderate Mitt Romney reared his head.
In the course of a single night, Romney said:
* On his “47 percent” comment: “This is a campaign about the 100 percent.”
* On health care: “Now and then, the president says I’m the grandfather of Obamacare. I don’t think he meant that as a compliment, but I’ll take it.”
* On immigration: ”I said I’m not in favor of a deportation — a mass deportation effort rounding up 12 million people and kicking them out of the country.”
* On gay marriage: “I would like to have the term ‘marriage’ continue to be associated with a relationship between one man and one woman, and that certainly doesn’t prevent two people of the same gender living in a loving relationship together having gay domestic partnership, if you will.”
Concluded NBC’s “First Read” of Romney’s remarks: “Last night was the candidate many of us expected to start seeing in June or July, not in September — it was the Romney of 2004.”
We’ve long wondered when the centrist Romney might emerge — particularly as his statement on the protests in Libya and even his initial handling of the “47 percent” video seemed driven by a “reassure the base” strategy that, to our mind, is almost entirely unnecessary.
Polling suggests that the conservative base is — and has been almost since the moment he became the GOP nominee — strongly behind Romney. Heck, even Bill Clinton doesn’t think the Romney-as-flip-flopper narrative will work.
The benefits for Romney of moving to the middle (in tone if not also in policy) are obvious….
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Your point?
Sure he probably is a “moderate”
Particularly compared to the Right Wingers who now dominate the GOP
But really
So what?
Indeed if some Right Ing commentator growls at him
Romney will back down and reiterate his “conservative” credentials
And if he was elected he will have to depend on Congressional Republicans
And “moderate ” is a word not in their vocabulary
I think most of us realize that the man who ran as a “liberal” back in the nineties is certainly far more moderate than his campaign would indicate
Accordingly Dog you can cut this little ritual you go through every few weeks of reminding us of this
Bottom Line?
Romney has had to move far RIGHT as the Republican presidential candidate so to sit around trying to devine the occasional “moderate” remark here and there is a waste of time
For the life of me, I don’t understand how anyone can feel they could confidentially predict how Romney would govern. Personally, I think that Romney’s comments to FL donors is what he really believes.
The point is Jack…..
Obama took the left in Iowa in the primary and NEVER went back….
Romney fought to get the nomination by being something he wasn’t…
A Conservative…..
10 seconds AFTER he got the nomination locked down (Not at the Convention….but BEFORE)
He should have started pivoting back to the middle which IS the way it’s done for EITHER party….
As I advertise ….
It’s probably too late…..
He, he, he……
I KNOW you’re looking for an argument…
Z…..
I’ve been say that since the primaries….
The guy IS who he is…..
This DOES backup the thought that the Conservatives, Tea Party and Grover Norquist followers are locking the Republican party OUT of running this country….
This will be accelerated if the Democrats make headways in against the GOP House margin of 25 seats….
The Right could be driving the GOP into obscurity…
Keep at it guys!
He is NOT pivoting to the Middle
Indeed he is DOUBLING DOWN on the Right Wing
As has been commented on incessantly by REAL commentators and as hinted by Zreebs
Here we have you quoting Chris Cilliza an establishment columnist who while I like him is obsessed with finding “moderates” in today’s hard Right GOP
So let me see Mitt is a “moderate” because he doesn’t want to deport ALL illegal immigrants
Made a smarmy remark about Obamas health care program
And says he believes in love!
Yeh thats really something!
I will note that disagreeing with one of your boring repetitive posts(you have posted this same thing several times like it is some revelation in your best lecturing tone)now constitutes
“…looking for an argument”
I will note that you “agree” with Zreebs earlier comment which is basically the same as whatIwas pointing out
But we all know
YOU NEVER
“look for an argument!”
Hahahahaha!!!!!
I have posted several times that Mitt IS a closet Moderate….
I have given examples…..
I KNEW you wanted to argue on this….
I indicate in the post that while EVERYONE focuses on the horse race…
Romney has been on different shows consistently backing AWAY from Conservative points….
Backing away from the GOP Platform from the convention…
Backing away from the deport everyone…
Backing away from Cancelling the ENTIRE Healthcare Program…
Backing away from the GOP tax policy ….
come on Jack argue with me….
it’s that time of the day….
Oh, Yea Romney has said he agree’s with Obama’s dealing with some of his foreign policy….
Moves enmass to the center….
“Your point?
Sure he probably is a “moderate”
Particularly compared to the Right Wingers who now dominate the GOP
But really
So what?”
My prediction exactly…….
Give the point….
Continue the argument….
And he’s just to darn late I believe….
Who’s arguing?
I posted a response to your pst
Then YOU posted an apprent rejoinder to ME
However when Zreebs posted pretty much the same thing
You fell allover yourself to AGREE
Seems like OU are the one who wants to argue
And yes you have posted the SAME thing NUMEROUS times
And I was just pointing it out
Like I say though
It is enlightening that to comment on one of your posts means one is
“…looking for an argument”
Here’s a suggestion
In the future when you post the same thing for the umpteenth time follow it with
NO COMMENTS PLEASE!
Indeed Mitt Romney is “moving to the center” so rapidly that two well known “moderates”
ANN Coulter and Bay Buchanan were defending him on the Sunday talk shows
And we ALL know how “moderate” they are!
He, he, he
OK….
That’s fair Jack….
I’ll back off….
No….
I won’t do that…
I HAVE made a point that Romney IS a closet moderate…
You agree….
Both females mentioned are media hounds …..
They are NOT moderates I agree….
But ARE paid talking heads
Corey’s weekly commentary (uncut)
from Corey’s Political Prognosticatons http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/
Saturday, September 22, 2012
Race for the White House
45 Days Until Election Day
Election Day continues to inch closer, and some Americans are now already voting, but much will continue to transpire on the road to the White House, despite the media and Democrats, declaring, for the second week in a row, that they have basically wrapped a victory up.
There were a plethora of polls over the past week, and the results can be confusing. Most national polls have continued to show a single digit Obama lead and the incumbent is also ahead, at least by a couple points, in almost all polls from the key swing states. Yet, as of today, the two daily national tracking polls, show the race as dead even. The Rasmussen Reports poll of swing states that were won by Obama in 2008 show a virtual tie in the aggregate of those states, as does the survey of swing states from Gallup. If those polls are accurate (which may very well be the case as there continues to be evidence largely ignored by the media, that so many polls are oversampling Democrats, for whatever reason) then the Presidential election would be a coin toss, if the election were tomorrow. Of course, there is still a long way to go, including all the debates.
At a point last week, Barack Obama led Mitt Romney by seven points in the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll. Exactly one week later, the candidates were tied at 47 percent each, which is where it remains as of today. That means, that for whatever reason, Mitt Romney gained seven points in the span of one week. If that is true, that is a considerable “bounce” more than on par with anything that happened at the conventions. Similarly, Rasmussen had shown Romney down the previous week as well, only to see him now tied once again. Yet the media has declared it to be another horrific political week for the GOP nominee. Are they accurately reporting the news, or are they trying to shape the news? It is has long been said that obsession over polling and “horse race” journalism was bad for the process, but those things are basically inevitable at this point. One would think though that all the polling data would at least be presented. The fact is that in the oldest poll of all polls, the past week saw a significant increase for Mitt Romney nationally and a significant decrease for Barack Obama. Quite often, state polling trends lag behind national numbers.
Anyways, I need to avoid the attempt to try to list and analyze everything that happened in the past week and just focus on the themes. There were political headaches for both candidates to be sure. The situation in the Middle East in regards to anti-American protests, continues to grow more dangerous, despite a lack of coverage in the mainstream media. Last week, Mitt Romney’s remarks over the foreign policy issues were supposed to have sunk his campaign, but that did not happen, and while the messages coming from the Obama Administration continue to be mixed, it now appears certain that the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Libya was an act of deliberate terrorism and not a spontaneous protest in regards to a little known internet movie, though the White House continues to apologize for that movie.
While people may or may not think that was a valid reason to vote for Obama in 2008, it is a fact that the candidate promised that his election and service as President would do much to placate the Muslim world and make America (and the American Presidency) more popular and respected around the world. Nearly four years later, American military involvement in the Middle East has decreased, but there are all indications that America, under Barack Obama is more despised than ever. Of course, I believe that hatred is completely unjustified (even if the Democrats did go way overboard in celebrating the Osama bin Laden death at their convention), but chalk this one up to one of Obama’s biggest broken campaign promises.
Along those lines, this past week saw the candidate, who was elected on “hope and change” four years ago, declare that he has discovered that Washington cannot be changed “from the inside”, which really does sound like a massive admittance of failure. This remark has to be considered a major gaffe, that will be revisited often during the homestretch of the campaign. It came when Obama was in Miami, Florida speaking to a Spanish language town hall meeting hosted by the Univision television network. One day earlier, Romney took part in a similar event. While not many English speakers likely watched the programs, it was said that the hosts of the forum were far tougher on Obama than anybody in the media has been in some time and that he seemed to struggle with his answers.
Making far more headlines this past week was the discovery of a videotape that so many have declared politically toxic for Mitt Romney. During a Florida fundraiser back in May, that was supposed to be off limits to cameras, the GOP candidate was caught making a series of unscripted remarks in the answer to the politically pointed questions of attendees. Apparently, this hidden video footage has been on the internet for months, but never received any coverage until this past week, when it was published by Mother Jones magazine, with an assist from the grandson of Jimmy Carter. One question has to be why it was released now. Many on the right have and will continue to speculate that this was intended as an “October surprise” that Democrats released early in order to hurt Romney during a time when they sensed he was regaining momentum.
On the surface, I will certainly admit that what Romney said can easily be used against him politically and will be, even though his remarks will clearly be taken out of context. I do not know that this is going to have the negative effect that so many on the left and in the media expect though. To be sure, it will greatly anger a lot of people, but those are the people who are already not voting for Mitt Romney. He definitely will not win those votes now, but it’s not as if they can vote against him twice (legally.) On the flipside, many conservatives became aware of the remarks and heartily agreed and said that the person the hidden video captured is the candidate they want to see on the campaign trail.
My own feelings are a bit more mixed. In general, I agree with what Mitt Romney had to say, and agree with the point he was making in regards to the culture of government dependency that has been increasing under Obama. Yet, as the candidate admitted this week, his remarks were “inelegant” and I do think that Romney inappropriately drew a correlation between the 47 of voters that Obama is almost certain to get and the approximate 47 percent who do not pay federal income taxes, which include a lot of people who will vote for Romney.
Critics say this proves that the “real Romney” is a cold, uncaring plutocrat who is willing to write off almost half the country and would not have their best interests in heart as President. I certainly do not think that is the case at all, as I have no doubt that the candidate I am so proud to support is a compassionate conservative, who has demonstrated his humanity at all points in his adult life and who wants to be President because he believes so deeply in the America in which people can improve their lot in life. I realize he was speaking (perhaps too pessimistically) in regards to a political question about how he would proceed as a candidate, going about to try to win an election, and not how he would govern as President. I would theorize that he was maybe tired and a bit frustrated that night in May in Florida, as we all can be from time to time, but candidates for high office, especially the President, need to always be reminded that they are never really “off the record.” We can all look back at the Obama 2008 remarks about “bitter” voters who “cling to their guns and religion” as a similar incident where a candidate was hammered for off the record remarks, but which ultimately did not prevent them from winning an election.
As a Romney supporter, I wish that we Republicans did not have to deal with the distraction of this matter, but there is also a blessing in there to try to put the focus of this campaign on the differences between the parties on dependency vs. opportunity. I definitely expected a short term decrease in Romney’s polling numbers, but for the second week in a row, I may have fallen a bit too hard for the media meme, as that clearly has not happened based on the Gallup and Rasmussen numbers.
By yesterday, the Romney campaign was probably a bit happy (and thank G-d that Ann Romney’s airplane scare was resolved safely) to have the focus shift a bit to the long promised release of the candidates 2011 tax returns. In addition to that a summary from a tax preparation form was released which confirmed the candidate has paid taxes going back at least twenty years. That proves that Harry Reid is a liar, but I think all smart people who follow this already knew that.
Anyways, the 2011 tax returns show that the Romneys made a substantial amount of money, almost all from previously taxed investment income, and gave millions to charity. In fact, they overpaid taxes in 2011 by a significant amount by not claiming deductions for all the charity money they gave, in order to keep with a previous campaign statement of having always paid an effective rate of at least 14 percent.
Based on that, the very same liberals who had for months been slamming Mitt Romney for what they said was his not paying enough in taxes to now slamming him for having paid too much in taxes, saying it was just a campaign gimmick.
Clearly the Republican candidate cannot win with a large segment of the political and media class, but once the American people look at the two candidates and the issues facing the next President, I believe Mitt Romney can still win.
http://www.mittromney.com/
http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/
I thought Corey requested that his posts NOT be reprinted here?
“…even though his remarks will be clearly taken out of context”
How can one take “out of context” ones remarks that were recorded for all to see
What was the “contex?”
This whole post by Corey seems almost plaintive
Mitt just screwed up Corey and revealed his true colors
What’s the deal?
I don’t want James to post this as a separate item or thread on his own blog, I’m just copying this like I copy other columns.
[I have no idea (nor am I particularly keen to know) what ScottP said that so upset Corey. It sounds out of character for Scott to do something like that. And since I try to stay as far away as possible from these pointless inside quarrels, I only have the vaguest idea of the backstory.]
Corey said specifically to YOU that he didn’t want his posts posted to this site
Maybe you weren’t on then
But he did say it
Now I don’t care
My view is that once someone posts something it’s in the public sphere
I was just noting that he did say that
DSD,
Why are you doing this? Leave Corey alone. He requested that nothing should be posted or commented from his Blog or do you want the lawyers to come here.
There is NOTHING in the slightest that DSD has done wrong legally
Funny you should be defending Corey Daniel
He has blasted you much worse than he ever did me!
Corey’s legal team is probably boarding the plane right now.
Corey used to blast us too Jack. He just didn’t provide names. His blog would often refer to posts that we made as “some liberals” or something to that effect.
I give 3-2 odds that James does NOT delete DSD’s comment. (Hey, I give odds for everthing else!)
My Daniel has really become a Republican – he can make drama out of anything. Oh the outrage, someone reposted something Corey put out for all the world to see — as small as Corey’s world might be. Actually DSD did him a favor, now, at least five more people have read the bullshit he writes.
Both Romney and Obama did well in their interviews on “60 Minutes”. Scott Brown did well in the second half of his debate with Elizabeth Warren, who looked like a machine for spouting talking-points by the end of their first debate.
Although I can’t see it on line, The Providence Journal says that David Cicilline’s contest to hold onto Rhode Island’s 1st against Col. Brendan Doherty (R) may lean Democratic but is still uncertain, citing national pundits like Charlie Cook and the Rothenberg Report. One expert said that any time the incumbent’s campaign starts saying it could win without a majority (since an independent, David Vogel, is also in this race), that campaign has to be in trouble.
I think the race for John Tierney’s 4th Congressional in Massachusetts is still close, with legislative leader Robert Tisei (R) having a tangible chance of unseating Tierney in the wake of an Internet gambling scandal for which Mrs. Tierney has already pled guilty to federal crimes.
Anything new on the Gross v DSD suit? I understand that Corey’s crack legal team is no match for My Name is jack – who no doubt will represent DSD and James. James is looking at the fine print of his liability policy. I’m not sure what his umbrella limits are, but the damages for having Corey’s work posted on pdog101 can be huge.
Corey will likely call on Daniel to testify – as Daniel warned DSD and James of the potental lawsuit. SE and Manilla may also testify on Corey’s behalf, and the defendants can only imagine the powerful impact of these two witnesses.
I hereby volunteer my services
But as to state courts I’m only admitted in SC
However I am admitted in federal court(although I’ve only done one case there and that was twenty five years ago!)
So we will hAve to get it removed there
No problem though I see some major federal questions involved!
Lest DSD and The Dog worry I promise to bone up(pun intended) on the arcane fed rules to be prepared for the Gross assault!
I will appear pro bono because the chance to cross examine these characters would be a once in a lifetime opportunity
Hell the transcript alone would provide grist for months of comments on this site!
(Then again perhaps I fear that my performance would give my clients grounds for a malpractice suit!)
The only one guilty of malpractice, is Corey, political malpractice. Remember, this is the manchild who thinks history will count George W. Bush as one of our greatest Presidents. From Bush to Romney, he sure can pick ‘em.
Did Corey imply Muhammad was a doo doo anywhere in that post?
The State Department might get involved.
PS: Wow! I just found a Noble Peace Prize in my box of Cracker Jacks! Usually I get some crappy water based Tatoo.
“In fact, they overpaid taxes in 2011 by a significant amount by not claiming deductions for all the charity money they gave, in order to keep with a previous campaign statement of having always paid an effective rate of at least 14 percent”
And the funny thing is Romney claimed a few weeks ago that if he had ever paid higher taxes than required by the law he wouldn’t be fit to be President.
Another flip flop.
Uh oh, by quoting Corey’s blog post am I now part of the lawsuit? Better see if I can take off work to appear in whatever Kangaroo Court this will be held!
You know Scott Romney’s tax rate would have been much lower if he had taken the full deduction for charity. Of course when he loses the election he can go back, claim the full deduction, and get another check from the government.
By not claiming all he could, and by really donating more than needed to, Romney has brought up the subject of deductions and loop holes. By what he was talking about on 60 Minutes, he plans a lot of changes to the tax code and not some simple increase like the democrats are lobbying the people for.
Remember, he did not have to give away all that money in the first place. He knew he was running for president when he did the form and his income is predictable. He could have manipulated the charitable giving to be at 15%.
The Axelrod jingoism’s will be called out for what they are.
Trash talk.
Another check from the government?
Joining the 47% club Mitt?
Might as well, you were in it before. Or do you have amnesia about that $10 million bailout you took to save Bain Capital.
Yep you built it alright–a glass house that you thought could somehow withstand a few boulders you tossed around. Oh well.
“Or do you have amnesia about that $10 million bailout you took to save Bain Capital.”
Considering America’s attention span, everyone else will.
“Another check from the government?”
Always trying to disqualify the competition.
I saw this in Government contracts all the time.
Notably when a communications contract I bid on was my competitors spec word for word.
Normally with a option no one else could equal.
Until our distributor found their own swell.
And the contracts followed our spec from end to end.
Also with a option no one else could equal.
Problem was.
The options cost more than the system they were integrated with.
Just make the deal!
It’s the American way!
“glass house”
Obama has not obtained the results he promised so he is asking the American people for more time. He may well get it. If not, maybe he should take his own advise and enroll in a basic economic course at the local Community College.
Then he could get re-elected like Grover Cleveland did.
And be the second black President.
For I certainly would not want Romney to get in the way of Keith and Scott obtaining their goals in life:
TO BE PATARONAGE HIRES!
I thank you!
OMG!! A 15% tax rate!! Unheard of for the very wealthy. What a sacrific that would be for poor Willard and Ann-tonette. Yes, Willard talks about restructuring the tax code, problem, he doesn’t give specifics. Just like he won’t show us his tax returns for the last 12 years like Daddy did. Willard’s problem, he cannot talk taxes without someone asking those pesky questions — like why he hide his money off-shore. Pity.
He’s gonna KEEP carrying HIS tax question until Election Day…..
The gift that keeps giving…
Manila….
The issue is complaining about the NOT so fortunate taking the $$$
And Mitten’s doing the SAME DARN THING!
DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO….
Is Manilla suggesting that Obama take an economics class? Since when has Manilla cared what economists believe?
I can tell you that economists overwhelmingly suppport Obama over Romney. And about 90% of economists believe that the unemployment rate would be significantly higher if not for the stimulus program.
Yea Z….
Let Professor Obama TEACH the damn class!
Let him instruct the students how he and HIS administration pulled the US and the rest of the world’s economy out of a dutch Bush ll drove it into by giving away the surplus that Bill Clinton engineered….
I’d like to be in THAT class….
As Bill Clinton said (in my words-I don’t have his exact quote), the GOP message to the country is something like this: Barack Obama inherited a mess, but he hasn’t eliminated all the problems he inherered fast enough, so we should go back to the same policies in effect before Obama.