Trump didn’t Really understand the ‘Dreamers’ Program move he made…Open Thread for Sept. 5, 2017…

Donald J. Trump promised that he would take care of the ‘Dreamers’….

Then he decided to throw the decesion to Congress and didn’t even make the announcement…The call to give the call to Congress wasn’t his idea..It was hius Cheif of Staff guy John Kelly’s…..

A few hours ago Trump updated his first condition , by saying that he would ‘revisit’ his threat of cancelling the program in 6 months ….

Presumerily indicatingb that he was afraid that Congress would get bogged down in trying make side deals on extending the protections he ACTUALLY want s extended to those involved and let the prgram run out and have Sessions going after the 800, 000 people an d their families involved….

Now we found out that Trump ACTUALLY DID NOT UNDERSTASND WHAT HE DOING when he went ahead with the call to shut down the program….

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Why is this man the President of the United States?

….The announcement was an effort by Mr. Trump to honor the law-and-order message of his campaign, which included a repeated pledge to end Mr. Obama’s immigration policy, while seeking to avoid the emotionally charged and politically perilous consequences of targeting a sympathetic group of immigrants.

Mr. Trump’s decision came less than two weeks after he pardoned Joe Arpaio, the former Arizona sheriff who drew intense criticism for his aggressive pursuit of unauthorized immigrants, which earned him a criminal contempt conviction.

The blame-averse president told a confidante over the past few days that he realized that he had gotten himself into a politically untenable position. As late as one hour before the decision was to be announced, administration officials privately expressed concern that Mr. Trump might not fully grasp the details of the steps he was about to take, and when he discovered their full impact, would change his mind, according to a person familiar with their thinking who was not authorized to comment on it and spoke on condition of anonymity.

But ultimately, the president followed through on his campaign pledge at the urging of Mr. Sessions and other hard-line members inside his White House, including Stephen Miller, his top domestic policy adviser…

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Barack Obama said in response to the Trump’s reverasl action….. it was soley ‘Political’…NOT legal and’ Cruel and Self Sefeating ‘….

He was right…..

Now Trump seems stuck….

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Donald Trump took $107 million promised to charities … and kept it…

WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 20: President Donald Trump singing along to "My Way" dances with first lady Melania Trump while attending the Freedom Inaugural Ball at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center on January 20, 2017 in Washington, D.C. Trump will attend three inaugural balls. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch - Pool/Getty Images)

Occupying the White House has proven lucrative for Donald Trump. He’s been able to charge the Secret Service hundreds of thousands for rental space and golf carts. He’s been able to turn his Washington Hotel into a place where the emoluments clause is put to constant test. But the AP reports that no other cash-in matches the one Trump took on day one.

President Donald Trump’s inaugural committee raised an unprecedented $107 million for a ceremony that officials promised would be “workmanlike,” and the committee pledged to give leftover funds to charity.

The $107 million is a massive amount for even the most lavish inauguration. It’s almost twice what Barack Obama took in for a celebration that was much more widely attended and which included many more events. Trump even cut back on the number of inaugural balls to only two, compared to the ten balls that the Obamas attended in 2009. With twice the money and one fourth the events, all but a handful of the $107 million gifted to Trump for the inauguration should be available for charitable giving.

It’s been eight months. How much has been given out? None. None at all.

Nothing has yet gone to charity.

What is left from the massive fundraising is a mystery, clouded by messy and, at times, budget-busting management of a private fund that requires little public disclosure. ….

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Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly suffers thru his boss speech at the UN?…..

Poor man….

No matter how he tries?

His boss is gonna be HIMSELF.….

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Maybe the guy had a head cold?
Maybe NOT?
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Trump approval numbers bump up with well educted Americans…

That’s what the Washington Post see’s…..

Steve Bannon is gone…..(And other flame throwers)

John Kelly has the reigns of the White House….

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Hmmmm?

In the week since Kelly came in, there’s been effectively no change in Trump’s approval. That week it was 38 percent, then it fell and rose back to the same point. Since Bannon was ousted, the rise has been pretty consistent.

The change over the past four weeks has been heavily centered on the sorts of Americans that Trump would very much like to keep in line for 2020. Among college graduates, his approval has jumped 7 points; among those with advanced degrees, it’s up 10. Among moderate Republicans, his approval rating has climbed 7 points. In the case of moderate Republicans, he still is well behind where he was in January, but among better-educated Americans, he’s regained most of the ground he lost…..

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The piece DOES incidently point out that for the last month Donald Trump has played second fiddle to several storms…..

Stay tuned…

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Mueller Trump update 9/18/17….Mueller’s boss interviewed….

This case goes places that very few have…..

Robert Mueller’s boss Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein it turns out was given a Q & A back in June or July about the Trump firing of then FBI Director James Comey….

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Rosenstein’s boss Attorney General Sessions will most likely also undergo a Q & A by Mueller’s people, if it hasn’t already happen….

In fact?

Donald Trump HIMSELF might HIMSELF be asked to have a sitdown with Mueller’s people….

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office has interviewed Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein about President Donald Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The interview, which occurred in June or July, presents the unusual situation of investigators questioning the person directly overseeing their probe. Mr. Mueller’s office is investigating Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 election, whether any associates of Mr. Trump coordinated with Moscow’s efforts, and related matters.

Mr. Mueller as special counsel has a good deal of independence, but he ultimately answers to Mr. Rosenstein, because Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from the investigation.

The special counsel’s handling of the interview could be a sign that Mr. Mueller’s team doesn’t view Mr. Rosenstein as a central witness in its probe, as the deputy attorney general hasn’t withdrawn himself from overseeing it since that interview. A key witness would likely have to take such a step.

“It is unusual,” said Peter Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor. “But my inference is that they are not viewing him as a potential critical witness, because either the testimony isn’t that critical or there are other people that can say the same thing.”

Ian Prior, a spokesman for the Justice Department, said in a statement, “As the deputy attorney general has said numerous times, if there comes a time when he needs to recuse, he will. However, nothing has changed.”…..

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GOP Sen Alexander gives up bipartisan effort on Obamacare….

Kinda KNEW this was gonna stop in its tracks…..

Lindsey Graham is trying to get a last ditch Senate Repeal bill approved by next weeks deadline to do so with a sinple US Senate majority…

Alexander’s efforts had to be seen as undermining the Republican Repeal effort….And some Dempcrats did NOT want to go along with helping Republicans escape the problems of their Repeal efforts…

The Graham effort still seems a few GOP Senator votes short just like the last effort….

The announcement by [Sen] Alexander, who chairs the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, was the clearest signal yet that the GOP conference is charging forward with the Graham-Cassidy measure to dramatically reshape the U.S. health care system.

“Senator Murray and I had hoped to agree early this week on a limited, bipartisan plan to stabilize 2018 premiums in the individual health insurance market that we could take to Senate leaders by the end of the month. During the last month, we have worked hard and in good faith, but have not found the necessary consensus among Republicans and Democrats to put a bill in the Senate leaders’ hands that could be enacted,” Alexander said in a statement.

There were other signs the effort was in trouble on Tuesday; at the same time Ryan was throwing his support behind the Graham-Cassidy measure, he signaled the House would not take up the Alexander-Murray bill.

That was despite the bipartisan effort picking up support outside of Congress, with a group of 10 governors ranging from Alaska’s independent Gov. Bill Walker to Ohio’s Republican Gov. John Kasich to Colorado’s Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper writing to Senate leaders to say the Graham-Cassidy measure should be set aside and Congress should focus on the Alexander-Murray effort to stabilize the markets.

Alexander — who bucked some in his party to try to find consensus with Murray, the HELP panel’s top Democrat — was facing pressure from both sides of the aisle….

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Mexico has a second major earthquake…7.1 …Over a 100 dead…

It’s the second one in a month….

A 7.1-magnitude earthquake struck central Mexico on Tuesday, collapsing buildings and killing dozens of people on the anniversary of a 1985 quake that devastated Mexico City.

Coming less than two weeks after a deadly temblor off the country’s Pacific coast, and just hours after a siren signaled an annual earthquake drill in the capital, Tuesday’s quake shook the ground with terrifying force, buckling walls and sending panicked residents fleeing into the streets. There were reports of fires and gas leaks.

At least 139 people were reported killed, local officials and news agencies reported. They included 64 people in Morelos state south of Mexico City, 29 in the state of Puebla, one in Guerrero state, nine in the state of Mexico — which surrounds the capital — and 36 in Mexico City.

Residents feared that more people were buried under rubble. At least 44 buildings collapsed or partly collapsed in Mexico City, according to Mayor Miguel Ángel Mancera. In the central neighborhood of Del Valle, a frantic scene played out Tuesday afternoon as hundreds of people gathered to search for trapped residents. At least two multistory apartment buildings fell, and residents said dozens of people could have been inside. Marines, medical volunteers and regular citizens formed lines to pass trash cans, plastic crates and plastic barrels to remove debris….

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Afghanistan War update 9/18/17….More American Boot’s going there….

Donald Trump’s general’s are restarting the war Presodent Obama had worked on shutting down….

Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis announced on September 18 that the US will send more than 3,000 troops to Afghanistan in an effort to win America’s 16-year war there — the longest in US history. It’s also a reversal for President Trump, who entered office promising to minimize America’s involvement abroad.

They will add to the approximately 11,000 US troops already serving in Afghanistan, bringing the total to at least 14,000. These new service members will help Afghan forces in their effort to defeat the nearly 20 terrorist groups in the country — especially the Taliban, ISIS, and al-Qaeda — by advising them and providing artillery and air support.

The announcement comes less than a month after Trump outlined his war strategy in a high-profile August 21 speech in front of around 2,000 troops at Fort Myer, Virginia. Trump said the US would win the war but didn’t disclose when US troops would come home. “Conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on,” he said in his remarks, which were heavy on harsh rhetoric but strikingly light on details…..

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image….A member of the United States Air Force keeps watch over the runway on September 9, 2017 at Kandahar Air Field in Kandahar, Afghanistan.Photo by Andrew Renneisen/Getty Images

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Trump gets ‘self deportation’ to work…

Mitt Romney was laughed at in trying sell this….

Donald Trump makes it start to work…..

The LA Times does a piece on one family with undocumented heads, but American born children that have no knowledge of Mexico a place their parents are returning to voluntarily, something that was unthinkable a few years ago….And Mexico has having to cope with the increased numbers of people coming back across the border….

There are nearly half a million children who are U.S. citizens enrolled in Mexican schools, the Mexican government said last year. Researchers have found some students struggling to integrate because they cannot read or write in Spanish.

Mexico has not had the long history of immigration like the U.S. and so has not had to grapple with how to accommodate non-Spanish-speaking students in their schools.

“They haven’t thought about creating classes of Spanish as a second language,” said Patricia Gándara, a UCLA professor who heads up education for the UC-Mexico Initiative.

“Without programs to help integrate these kids into the schools and without even the acknowledgment on the part of many teachers that these kids have special needs, they’re not likely to fare really well in the Mexican school system,” Gándara said. “We think it’s a real crisis.”

If large numbers of English-speaking U.S.-born children began heading south, they could swamp the Mexican school system.

There were an estimated 4.5 million U.S.-born children under the age of 18 living with undocumented parents, according to a 2012 Pew Research Center study. A USC analysis found that about 13% of children in Los Angeles County were U.S. citizens with at least one parent without legal status.

An American citizen with a parent who is a Mexican national can become a dual citizen through “registro de nacimiento,” or birth registration.

In 2016, from January through August, the Mexican Consulate in L.A. registered 991 births. This year, over the same months, more than 2,000 were registered.

There have also been increases in birth registrations at the consulates of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, credited in part to the new administration.

“I think in part because of the insecurity that’s come with President Trump and the possible changes to immigration,” said Pablo Ordóñez, Honduras’ consul general in L.A. “I think people are preparing for any possibility.”…..

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US Senate green lights Defense Bill….

The US Senate has agreed on a preliminary $692 billion Defense spending bill joining the US House….

The next step is for members of both legislative bodies to sit down and work out the differences between both bodies bills…..

The spending is above the sequester cap that Congress had set during  President Obama’s terms …..

The Senate sidestepped controversy Monday and overwhelmingly passed a sweeping $692 billion defense policy bill for the new fiscal year.

Scrapped without votes were a handful of contentious proposals to prevent transgender troops from being kicked out of the military, eliminate across-the-board budget cuts, bar indefinite detention of U.S. citizens and launch a new round of military base realignments and closures.

The annual National Defense Authorization Act was passed 89-8, setting up what could be contentious negotiations with the House over a series of key policy differences on the must-pass legislation.

The House passed its version of the bill in July. And the two chambers are expected to soon form a joint conference committee to hammer out their differences and negotiate a final compromise.

Senate Armed Services Chairman John McCain, who managed the bill on the Senate floor, while undergoing treatment for brain cancer, had been pushing for votes on four key amendments dealing with defense spending, indefinite detention, Buy America requirements and restrictions on defense medical research. But with the chamber deadlocked on the issue, Senate leaders instead moved to finish the bill quickly……

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Trump tells the UN he would have no choice but to ‘Totally Destroy North Korea’ to defend itself or allies….

…from the NY Times…..

If the United States is forced to defend itself or its allies, “we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea,” President Trump told the gathering.

In his address to the General Assembly on Tuesday, Mr. Trump denounced North Korea and its leader, Kim Jong-un, saying the nation “threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of life” as a result of its nuclear weapons program.

“If the righteous many don’t confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph,” he said.

Mr. Trump emphasized that it was against the interest of the entire world for North Korea — which he called a “band of criminals” — to obtain missiles and nuclear weapons.

“Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself,” he said of Mr. Kim.

But the president also said America would act alone if needed. He emphasized an “America first” agenda, and said that while the United States would “forever be a great friend to the world and especially to its allies,” his primary responsibility was to Americans…..

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Pelosi confronted with a crowd demanding a ‘clean’ Dreamers Bill vote….

Ain’t gonna happen…

Pelosi KNOWS she’s gotta make a deal that will let Republicans take SOMETHING home besides just letting 800,000 to 1.2 Million undocumented persons stay in America, that could in fact be deported….

But the pressuer WILL keep the House MInority Leader from giving up too much for what she wants….

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And YES…..

President Obama DID go ahead and deported a LOT of undocumented people in hopes of getting a deal from Republicans….

No such deal ever occurred….Republicans rolled Obama….

It IS fair to make sure Pelosi doesn’tget rolled like Obama was……

The protesters demanded “a clean bill” — meaning that the Dream Act would get an up-or-down vote on its own without any language regarding border security attached. They “demanded” that Pelosi show a commitment to protecting “all 11 million” undocumented immigrants believed to be in the country.

“We demand accountability. Democrats are not the resistance of Trump. We are!” they shouted.

One male protest leader then started a call and response with the group, addressing Pelosi directly and pointing his finger at her: “Congresswoman Pelosi! You called this press conference in our name to defend the so-called Dream Act,” they said.

“First you said you supported a clean Dream Act. And last week you announced that you had agreed and I quote you, ‘To work out a package of border security.’ Your words. Or were you misquoted? We cannot say, however, that we are surprised,” they added.

They also complained that the Obama administration had systematically deported hundreds of thousands of people.

“Where was your resistance then?” they asked…..

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Last year’s election helped increase Latino lawmakers….

Slowly and surely….

Even as Trump uses Latino’s as a crutch….

Others move ahead in joining the American political system…

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As Trump was celebrating his success with white working-class voters, nine congressional districts and Puerto Rico welcomed new Latino lawmakers. Six of them — all but one of them Democrats — replaced white or African-American incumbents.

“While we lost at the top of the ticket, the untold story of the election was the dramatic increase in Latino participation rates that allowed for a record number of Latinos to be elected to office,” said Cristobal Alex, president of the Latino Victory Project, an outreach group backed by Democratic activists, and the national deputy director of voter outreach and mobilization for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. “There are bright spots.”

In the Senate, Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada became the country’s first Latina senator. Her historic win was heralded as a “silver lining” in an otherwise bleak year for Hispanic liberals. The new members added to a growing number of Latinos in Congress, who are slowly becoming more diverse.

The number of Hispanic members in the 115th Congress — 41 — is more than double than what it was 20 years ago. …

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Mueller Trump probe Update 9/18/17…Manafort was wiretapped…..



My original  headline was INCORRECT…..

Reports are that Manafort was wireTAPED….

There is no report he actually wore a’ wire’

My apologies for my error….

Unfuckingbelieveable!…..

Yes…..

I said Paul Manafort was in deep shit….

He is in deep….


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Who else?

The FBI wiretapped Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, both before and after the election, CNN reports. According to the report, those taps were active during a “period when Manafort was known to talk” to President Trump, but not at the time Manafort attended a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer.
  • Three sources told CNN the investigators were concerned Manafort had “encouraged Russians to help with the campaign.”
  • The taps were authorized by a FISA court, per CNN, a step that requires high-level approval and significant documentation. A storage facility belonging to Manafort was also searched…..

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This is REALLY beginning to sound like an ole’ fashion criminal conspiracy and enterprise case that would be pursed against organized crime operations….With an obstruction of justice parallel also running……

Remember….Donald Trump had IRS tax issues BEFORE he won the election….

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Breaking….Hillary Clinton up for CHALLENGING Donald Trump’s Win

YOU READ THAT RIGHT!…..

When asked if she would be up for contesting the Trump win if Special Counsel Mueller is successful in proving that Trump’s win was a result of illegal actions…..

She said  she would NOT RULE OUT contesting his Presidency….

OH SHIT!….

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This has  NEVER happened and has scant to zero chance of ever happening….

But wait until tomorrow morning….

Cause I can’t see how Donald Trump doesn’t take this bait and strike back….(Thus affording Clinton the pleasure of getting a piece of Trump)…..

Wow!!!!

It’s like the 2016 campaign NEVER ended…..

Sanders is pushing his stuff….

Trump is tweeting insults at Hillary Clinton….

And Hillary Clinton is out there knocking Trump……

Here’s the full text of the back-and-forth, courtesy of CNN’s Dan Merica:
Gross: I want to get back to the question, would you completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learn that the Russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know now?
Clinton: No. I would not. I would say —
Gross: You’re not going to rule it out?
Clinton: No, I wouldn’t rule it out.
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This a big deal. The 2016 Democratic nominee, who won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes, is expressly leaving open the possibility that she would pursue legal action to invalidate the last presidential election.
I’ve paid close attention to what Clinton’s been saying since she lost the election and I have never heard her broach the possibility of a formal challenge of the results.
Knowing what we know of Clinton, it seems unlikely to me that she simply spoke off the cuff here, that this was just an unconsidered remark. She doesn’t really do that sort of thing.
Glen Caplin, a spokesman for Clinton, said after the interview aired that the former secretary of state “has said repeatedly the results of the election are over but we have to learn what happened.”
“I would hope anyone in America concerned about the integrity of our democracy would feel the same way if we got there. But we’re not,” Caplin said. “Right now Bob Mueller and several congressional committees are investigating to what extent the Russians impacted our election and who exactly helped them do so.”
And, context matters too. Clinton floated the idea of formally contesting the election after she said this about how she envisions her role in the party going forward: “I expect to be really active, and my voice, I’m going to keep out there. I’m not going to just go slowly and quietly into that good night.”
Given all of that, it’s logical to conclude Clinton knew what she was doing here.
The harder-to-answer questions are a) how she would go about challenging the election and b) what the prospects for such a challenge actually working might be…..
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Trump people look to counter 2020 Democratic Presidential prospects early…

Several Democratic senators thought to already running in the 2020  Presidential nomination sweepstakes are coming into the crosshairs of groups working with the Republican National Committee …..

The names include Sanders, Gillibrand, Warren, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy….But does NOT include the possible two top names Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, though Harris has already attracted the attention of Republicans…

Of course no one knows who the Republicans President will be come 2020….Will it be Donald Trump or maybe Mike Pence, eh?

Allies of Donald Trump have begun plotting to take down or weaken potential Democratic challengers in 2020, including several who will be on the ballot in next year’s midterms.

The 2018-focused work ranges from a major donor-funded super PAC designed to blemish Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s image, to a full-scale effort to defeat Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown outright before he gets the chance to take on Trump. Beyond that, after months of monitoring dozens of potential challengers, Trump allies are building research files and crafting lines of attack on Democrats seen as most threatening to Trump and who will be on the ballot next November.

The patchwork push is less organized than past efforts orchestrated by presidential reelection campaigns. But it’s beginning to resemble Republicans’ successful attempt to drag down Hillary Clinton before she announced her 2016 run. Plus, with Trump under siege from Democrats and Republicans — and with his team wary of a GOP primary challenge — it’s more confirmation that Trump allies are already maneuvering for a bruising 2020 campaign.

The bulk of the early preparations underway focus on seven possible 2020 Democrats who are up for reelection in 2018. Within the Republican National Committee and Trump-aligned outside groups in recent months, operatives have regularly met to discuss plans for constructing the research material, money and staff they’ll need to chip away at Democratic White House hopefuls’ reputations in 2018 and 2020…..

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It’s gotten this bad in the White House….Mueller Trump Probe Update 9/18/17

With Robert Mueller’s people on the case….

CYA…..Trust NO ONE is the word for Trump ‘s staff who have their OWN lawyers …

In addition?

Lawyers on the case MUST cooperate with Mueller’s investigation with NO lawyer-client shield….

….During the 1998 investigation into whether President Bill Clintoncommitted perjury and obstruction of justice to cover up an affair with Ms. Lewinsky, an appeals court ruled that government lawyers do not enjoy the same attorney-client privilege as private lawyers and that prosecutors in some circumstances can compel a White House lawyer to testify….

The uncertainty has grown to the point that White House officials privately express fear that colleagues may be wearing a wire to surreptitiously record conversations for Mr. Mueller…..

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